Beachwear & Bikes

[dolly3900]

A young lad (about 20) in our village (head to West Wales until you get your feet wet, then take a step back) has recently gotten his CBT (just) and hurtles about, balls out, on his Repsol CBR 125 like there is no tomorrow.

Seen him no lid, two up and recently, in this weather which is a tad warm, riding about in Lid, t-shirt, board shorts and flip-flops.

I know it is hot out there and a nice chill is a blessing at the mo, but there is a limit.

Been on a few Med' holidays and it seems the be de riguer to be in less than adaquate clothing on two wheels out there and taking into account the driving standards out there, it is even more of a risk.

OK, my jacket has a removable liner and "Air Pockets" for added ventilation and light weight bike jeans with pads and kevlar, but that is about as unprotected as I am willing to go as I would rather retain my skin to be able to sweat out of, rather than bits missing and not sweating.

Now at 45, I have that kind of father outlook for youngsters and attempt to lookout for their wellbeing (also work in a school, so know so many 'teen's from there) and have mentioned to him that maybe it is a bit silly to be dressed like this, but still see him in his tarmac fodder outfit.

Any advice on how to educate him to the dangers, or is it a case of I have tried once, now it is up to him and when he is looking for skin grafts, send him a card with I Told You So on it?

Am I being too much of a busybody here?

Should I just wind my neck in and leave him to it?

Sorry, rant over, just had to say something.

On a lighter note, been offered a mint RG500 Gamma for when I pass Mod 2, scared the carp out of me on a mate's RG250 years ago, so a 500 2t would end up with me being perminantly grinning

[Sako]

Mind your own business.

[dolly3900]

Fair enough

[Sako]

Also, buy the RG.

[The Shaggy D.A.]

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[map]

Time to back off. Sounds like you've done what you can.
IMHO you're talking to a teenager so no chance. You'll be talking rubbish so doing exactly the opposite of what you say is taken as the right thing to do.

After all from his point of view what would an old fart like you know. You've probably got senile dementia, although as he probably can't spell that would call you something more anglo-saxon expletive based.

Maybe one day he'll appreciate that experience is something that does come with age.

As for the other thing, I hate maintenance on a 2-stroke with a vengeance.


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[DottyDuck]

I know you mean well and it's nice of you to want to help others. but he is only legally required to wear a helmet, which he is doing. So any advice you give... he may not be bothered about!.. sadly some people learn the hard way.
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Old Bike: Zontes Panther 125cc - wrote off Current Bike: Kawasaki ZR7

[Rogerborg]

Throw him onto the road. When he's bawling from his skinned knee, say "Now imagine that, times a thousand."

Is the fantasy. In reality, you've done your bit, and maybe he'll stay lucky.
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[-Matt-]

I do agree with your points all be it i accept its everyones personal decision.

I would of thought you'd be wasting your breathe trying much anyway if hes hooning around like that at his age hes probably feeling indestructible.

May get lucky and enjoy his casual bike 'gear' for years to come.

Or may have an accident and probably re-evaluate the choice of attire he rides in.

Only real lesson that could be learnt in any scenario i think

From a personal perspective too i'd be far more concerned about having no back-armour, torn skin you can recover from or live with - a broken back and possible paralysis is somewhat harder to deal with. Not to say you're guaranteed a good outcome even with armour - but it mitigates a large chunk of the risk at least

[mgh0]

I get to see first hand the difference armour and kevlar makes over trackie bottoms or less.

You only need to see one degloving injury to gear up properly before you ride.

Plus skin grafts cost the NHS a fortune.
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[wodge]

They could really do with adding to the CBT a 30 min DVD of nasty bike crashes by stupid people... Might open a few eyes and minds.

Alternatively they could give a sideshow of the best of BCF "random banter" pictures...
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[shereen]

Show him these:

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https://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/Clearancelines/8_zpsbb2b1a2e.jpg

https://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/Clearancelines/1205Con_PETrauma_RoadRash_zps7157374e.jpg

https://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/Clearancelines/Hannah_Road_Rash6_zpsdca0fa99.jpg

https://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/Clearancelines/matthew-clark_zps59516580.jpg

https://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/Clearancelines/road_rash1_zps462ca1a6.jpg

https://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/Clearancelines/road_rash_zps124ef7db.jpg

https://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/Clearancelines/roadrash_zps7fd6ee79.jpg

https://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/Clearancelines/road-rash_zps0f3b7c6c.jpg

And then get him to read the following link:

https://sportbike.natkd.com/road_rash.htm
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[thepuma]

Surely changing up gear in flipflops cant be pleasurable?
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[wodge]

[The Shaggy D.A.]

[metalangel]

Gear shaft?
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[nowhere.elysium]

[stinkwheel]

The Honda hero (one of the most popular bikes in India where sandals or bare feet are the footwear of choice) comes as standard with heel-toe gearshift and a sari-guard for a reason.

https://bikeadvice.in/wp-content/gallery/passion-plus/dsc01588.jpg
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I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[Nexus Icon]

I don't get particularly righteous about it, nor feel the need to point out the error of their ways, but it always makes me a little queasy to see someone in shorts and t-shirt on a bike. Worse than that though is a rider in full gear and his petite, female pillion in tiny clothes and a helmet.
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[SandTiger]

Leave him be. If he doesn't see a reason to wear the gear already, and doesn't want to listen to you trying to help save his skin, then the only option for him is to figure out the hard way. All you'll be doing is pissing him off by keep pestering him to wear gear.
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[Supermoto_Fan]

As said, mind your own business. He's not affecting you and until he does then let him do what he wants.
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[Az]

You've tried, hopefully he won't fall... If he does let him learn from his own mistakes

[stinkwheel]

https://blogs.name.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/objection.jpg

At least these three examples of road rash from the previous post were sustained by falling off a pushbike, not from a motorcycle accident.

https://www.strivecycling.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Floaters/Hannah_Road_Rash6.jpg
https://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/Clearancelines/matthew-clark_zps59516580.jpg
https://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/Clearancelines/road-rash_zps0f3b7c6c.jpg

Whereas these injuries were sustained from a car airbag deploying:
https://www.revoptom.com/CMSImagesContent/2013/2/096_ro0213_tr-1.gif
https://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk32/ollethalb/parts%20for%20sale/airbagarm.jpg

My point?

Anyone who safety nazis about motorcycle gear who hasn't had a 5-point harness fitted in their car (they cost less than a motorbike helmet) is a hippocrite.
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“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[DottyDuck]

https://www.kratzmc.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/577_2.jpg

Somebody take my god damn money.

size 6.5 please
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CBT- 2012 Theory- 18/12/13 Mod 1- 07/01/14 Mod 2- 15/01/14
Old Bike: Zontes Panther 125cc - wrote off Current Bike: Kawasaki ZR7