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PostPosted: 12:07 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Temperary traffic lights Reply with quote

If you can see at the other side of the lights, that the traffic has stopped, do you wait untill your side goes green or just go?
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes lights can be on local control so best not to jump the red light in case a big lorry suddenly backs out and into your path Confused
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd always wait, not just legality wise but on the off-chance something does somehow come out [maybe someones stopped to let something from a side road come out into the ongoing opposite flow of traffic], if you do set off, and everyone behind you does as the others start coming again you're all going to get majorly stuck.

Don't want to be the one at the front getting bubble gum and fag ends thrown at you when it finally clears Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually wait like a good boy, but sometimes just to show I'm a rebel without a clue I will go through when all is clear.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I understand it, its not a specific offence to go through temporary traffic lights (Where 'proper' ones have specific rules), however I believe you are open to charges of driving without due care, and if you have an accident, you will almost certainly be found at fault, and possibly done for dangerous driving.

This is what my uncle told me many years ago (He was an active copper at the time). He may have been wrong, and if not, the law may have changed. If anyone knows better, feel free to correct me.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only time I jump lights is when the proper one's switch off the "timed mode" and can't sense I'm waiting there.

Got stopped twice for this, but they let me off since I didn't just dart out and took a good look around. Smile
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

James83 wrote:
As I understand it, its not a specific offence to go through temporary traffic lights

Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 says that (most) temporary lights should be treated the same as fixed ones. You'd have to be very lucky to find a set that's so off-spec that it wouldn't be covered. I'm not even convinced that there needs to be a temporary traffic order in place to validate them.

Thing is, I treat all signals as advisory anyway. I've only been caught at lights once, 13 years ago. It's really not a high risk "crime".
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

James83 wrote:
As I understand it, its not a specific offence to go through temporary traffic lights

The coppers that nicked me for going through a set 5 yards long at 2am when there was nothing else around for miles unfortunately thought otherwise... Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've never jumped while waiting, but if there are several cars in front going through a set of temp lights and the lights change to red while they are still driving through the works, i'll tag along and run the red if there is enough time for me to catch up with said cars in front....i see that happen a lot more when the lights are a fair distance apart - and providing they aren't a 3 way system.
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tem fuckin POR rary.
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've jumped a set of lights, but only because they were 10 feet apart either side of a manhole cover.

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PostPosted: 20:03 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
James83 wrote:
As I understand it, its not a specific offence to go through temporary traffic lights

Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 says that (most) temporary lights should be treated the same as fixed ones. You'd have to be very lucky to find a set that's so off-spec that it wouldn't be covered. I'm not even convinced that there needs to be a temporary traffic order in place to validate them.

Thing is, I treat all signals as advisory anyway. I've only been caught at lights once, 13 years ago. It's really not a high risk "crime".
I've put in quite a few permanent signals and they certainly don't have a traffic order of any sort so I would imagine temp ones are the same. I think they are legally S36 signs, so no need for a traffic order to prosecute for disobeying.(Same as keep left bollards, stop signs, double white lines etc).

If the signals are placed with the highway authority's approval then I would say it's points and a fine if you were to get caught jumping them, the only difference being no stop line, in which case the signal head itself is treated as the stop line.

Having said that I've waited at a few lights late at night when I can see the other end and nothing is coming and have taken the chance of going round them.
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a TS10 for doing something similar to this. 3 points, £60 fine. It was 2am at some abandoned roadworks, and the lights weren't changing despite me being the only vehicle on the road so I got fed up of waiting and went through them since I could see there was nothing coming the other way....

Except I wasn't the only vehicle on the road after all. Turns out the little speck waaaaaay off in the distance was an unmarked BMW 5 series who promptly caught up and ticketed me for it.

Totally not worth it. :/ I wait at them like a good boy now.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vracktal wrote:
I got a TS10 for doing something similar to this. 3 points, £60 fine. It was 2am at some abandoned roadworks, and the lights weren't changing despite me being the only vehicle on the road so I got fed up of waiting and went through them since I could see there was nothing coming the other way....

Except I wasn't the only vehicle on the road after all. Turns out the little speck waaaaaay off in the distance was an unmarked BMW 5 series who promptly caught up and ticketed me for it.

Totally not worth it. :/ I wait at them like a good boy now.


im pretty sure the coppers who gave you that ticket have saved countless kittens by stopping you from doing something so unbelievably heinous again.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Entertwainer wrote:
im pretty sure the coppers who gave you that ticket have saved countless kittens by stopping you from doing something so unbelievably heinous again.


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PostPosted: 22:43 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why borher jumping lights? Most sequences only last ten or twenty seconds.
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Why borher jumping lights? Most sequences only last ten or twenty seconds.

Some of the long temporary ones can be a good few minutes, especially if there's junctions too.

It'd be incredibly unlikely I would as I don't want the points.
However, on a push bike I may well hop on to the pavement, or if there's no one working, the other side of the cones if it's passable.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 20 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can recall at least one situation where the magic box has gone wrong causing all the lights to get stuck on red, this was in edgware road and as you can guess it caused absolute mayhem.

In the end the rozzers turned up and started directing traffic.
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