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PostPosted: 11:51 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: from bike to car... how fast? Reply with quote

I knew I should have got round to learning how to drive a car sooner....
Yes, I may be 28 but I can't drive. And this morning I got a letter in the mail saying 3 positions have opened up in the job I'm fairly sure I want as a career. Which is *very* exciting, apart from the fact I know they're going to require people who can drive. I was planning on learning this summer but haven't got around to it yet, and didn't expect any vacancy news this quickly.

So.. been riding for 5 years, how long is it going to take me, roughly, to get the hang of a car? Do they do quick courses as they do with bikes? Are these really expensive?
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

no problems

your road sense will be better developed than most car drivers already

you just have to develop the necessary control skills


easy peasy
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doddle. You know pretty much everything already, you just have to get used to doing it bigger and slower. In my past experience of taking bikers out in the car, the main 'issues' are road position (you don't sit in the middle of a car), reversing and the concept of straightening up the steering when doing low speed stuff. Nothing that takes any time to get your head round though.

You can get intensive driving courses, no idea of the prices I'm afraid.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 29, just learning to drive a car at the moment, I've had around 30 hours driving, and I'm applying for my test fairly shortly. Riding the bike really has developed my road sense. Remember thinking it was really weird how my view was obscured by the front pillars either side of the windscreen. The manouveres in the car are a bit of a pain, least i only have to sort out the U turn and emergency breaking on the bike. Left/Right hand reverse, Three point turn, Parrallell parking arghhh
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had about 20 lessons over 6 months and passed first time, after riding for about 18 months - 2 years.
Probably could have done it in less, but I was in no rush to pass and my parents were paying.
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just tell them you hold a full uk licence just don't say what for!

I does actually pee me off a little when you get things like this, unless its specificly a car related job then as long as you get to your destination - be it the office or on site e.t.c. smart enough then why exactly is it their buisness how you got there? Rolling Eyes

Its not so difficult, your going to have to deal with the fact you have considerbly less clearance, your going to have to give the engine more stick to go anywhere and the obvious controll differences..

My mums actually a driveing instructor, i get free lessons whenever i feel like it, been driveing a few years now, but never bothered with the test Confused just never had a good enough reason and especially now, if i get a car then the bike will be an expenditure thats not needed, which is not happening! Evil or Very Mad They'll have to prise it from my cold dead... um knees...

Anyways, car test is way easyer than the bike 100% fact, and they are easyer to controll, you'd have to try very hard to fall off one! as mr c said, if you have been rideing for a while you have a huge advantage of your road experience.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, should be simple.

Only thing that catches me out when I switch back to a car occasionally is the handbrake...

Oh, and it's not a good idea to try filtering in a car unless you're fitted with blue flashing lights... Shocked
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

zero wrote:
Just tell them you hold a full uk licence just don't say what for!


hehe well, there is actually a good reason not to do that - it's a job with the police!! Crime Scene Examiner. So I'd need a car to get to wherever I need to get to - carrying stuff I suspect so bike isn't an option (turning up on a red Ninja probably isn't the image they're looking for either Laughing )

I've driven a car a couple of times recently in a car park, and the oddest part is definitely the obscured vision in front + sides. You just can't see things! From what you all say it sounds like it should be possible to learn quite quickly though (reversing.. what a weird concept hehe).

Will I have to do the theory test again? Confused
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup another theory test to do.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will have to do the theory test again I'm pretty sure. Sad

I done my car test first but I found the bike test easier. Probably down to having decent road sense by then though. You've been on the roads about twice the length of me so I really doubt you'll have any problems at all. You'll have hardly anything to learn on your lessons so you can concentrate on the parts that are different from riding a bike. Won't take long at all! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ProXimaCore wrote:

I done my car test first but I found the bike test easier.


Agreed. I think the one you do first is the harder one, cos you have less road experience.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm doing them both about the same time Shocked
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in a similar position Izzi/, although I have been kinda almost learning to drive for a while. Although I've not had any proper lessons I have picked it up quite easily. I just have a problem with the centre mirror - I never use it.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can do whats known as a 'crash course' which is a week long and includes your test. You can get them for around £300 but you need to of done your theory test first.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just have a problem with the centre mirror - I never use it.


I've got that one too, I think its because theres no centre mirror on the bike.
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I have been riding a bike about 4~5 years by the time I learnt to drive (officially, tazzed a few cars around car parks in the past).

I found it quite easy. Major problems are remembering how slow the vehicle you are driving is. That gap you are looking at on the roundabout is not big enough to pull the car into (squealing of brakes as instructor stands on his brake and clutch Laughing ).

I think I took around 20 lessons to get a car licence (eg, first lesson on the 1st June, test on the 29th October). However I refused to put in for my test for a while when my instructor said I was ready, and when I passed (and still thought my driving was pretty dodgy) it was a touch worrying (if I can get through, who else is on the roads).

It might be worth asking round a few bike riding friends to see if they can suggest an instructor who also rides a bike, or better still has experience of teaching riders, as you needs will be somewhat different to someone with no real experience on the roads.

By the way, any details on the job?

All the best

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PostPosted: 12:57 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I found it quite easy. Major problems are remembering how slow the vehicle you are driving is. That gap you are looking at on the roundabout is not big enough to pull the car into (squealing of brakes as instructor stands on his brake and clutch ).



That must be why I keep doing that, scares the instructor .
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

spent 2 years on a bike before taking my car test - found it a comparative doddle passing after just 15 half-hour lessons - as Mr C said your road sense will be comparatively overdeveloped, just the vehicle control to get used to - something you'll do within a couple of hours
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

car control isnt too hard. manuvoring is a bid odd though!
I find driving a car harder, just cause i feel cut off from the world. its like i'm half asleep the whole time im driving. out int he open on a bike i find it much easier to sense how fast i'm going, following distances and road position.

You might get in a car and fine it very natural, or you might find it a right sod, depends on you.

Having ridden a bike will help no end with the theory side of things. the rest is mainly practise.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Re: from bike to car... how fast? Reply with quote

I was in a similar kind of position (24 now Confused)... did my test so I could get to trackdays etc.

I took ages of occasional lessons, but was delaying it for a bit for various reasons.

The worst bit after the initial shock was the manouvers. Specifically staying appropriately close to the curve.

Have never had to do a reverse around a corner in 'real life', but am finally sorting out the parking stuff after having my licence for 4 months.

You can get intensive courses and yes, they are expensive.
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I too am 28 I don't drive a car, but I'll learn this year for work and stuff. Tried years ago but had no interset in cars at all. Didn't like them and didn't need one.

But I think they are f*cking useful to have though. Time to try again soon Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like an intensive course wouldn't be worth the money.. I presume they're aimed at people with no road experience as well so I'd be paying heaps of money for them to teach me some parts that I already know..

I hadn't thought about the speed issue - the roundabout comment is a good one, I'll have to remember that! (I can picture me thinking the car had as good acceleration as the zx6r and making a bit of a mess! Doh! )

The place I'm thinking of learning also does bike instructing so I'm hoping that means they'll know my situation fairly well.

Kickstart wrote:
By the way, any details on the job?


It's still at the application form stage so I don't know very much - I don't even know what the pay is like! But it has to be better than £0 which is what I'm currently earning...
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was initially learning to drive a car in a trading estate going at just 40 felt really fast... while I've done probably twice that on the same estate on one wheel without any worries.

I tend to be over cautious in the car because I know it doesn't accelerate anything like my bike, so miss out any chances to pull out which I could have safely used.
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 22 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

izzi81 wrote:
Kickstart wrote:
By the way, any details on the job?


It's still at the application form stage so I don't know very much - I don't even know what the pay is like! But it has to be better than £0 which is what I'm currently earning...


Hi

Well let me know what you find out.

You don't need to have some kind of personality problem or dubious history for the job do you? Like an unhealthy interest in guns, obsession with insects, ex stripper, gambling addict, etc? Or is that just in the warmer parts of the USA Laughing .

All the best

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