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rk8479
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 21 Jul 2013    Post subject: Will i need a bigger bike for my module 1&2 Reply with quote

Im 19 in 2 months and have a 125cc, im wondering if im going for my A2 then would i need a bigger capacity machine or could it be passed on a 125cc?

if it has to be on a higher machine would i use the higher machine on the day or could i use one on public roads with L plates on before it?
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 21 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:02 - 22 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are taking lessons with a school most will provide a bike for a fee for training and testing.

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Age 19-20 - 47 bhp max: the A2 licence. This is where the rules become slightly complex. From the age of 19, you are permitted to take an A2 test (which must be taken on a bike of at least 395cc, with a power output of between 25kW/33bhp and 35kW/47bhp). If you don't already hold an A1 licence you will need to do a CBT beforehand, as always, and pass a theory test, before you take the practical test.Upon passing, the rider is restricted to bikes with a limit of 35kW/47bhp and a power-to-weight ratio of no more than 0.2kW/0.26bhp per kg, for two years. The power-to-weight ratio is an important qualification because it makes drawing a distinction between 'can ride' and 'can't ride' more nuanced than a simple bhp cap. In real terms, it imposes a minimum weight of 175kg for any bike using the full 47bhp, dashing hopes of super-lightweight 250s making a mockery of the bhp limit. It's relatively straightforward to restrict a bike, meaning you are not necessarily ruled out of riding the bike of your dreams - unless you are dreaming of anything 'more than twice' as powerful. Any bike originally making more than 94bhp is still out of reach of the A2 licence.You will need to hold the A2 licence for two years before you can move on to a full A licence.
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PostPosted: 00:48 - 22 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short answer is, probably yes but you can lend one, so don't buy a new bike.
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PostPosted: 07:54 - 22 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

sabian92 wrote:
Short answer is, probably yes but you can lend one, so don't buy a new bike.


Short answer is yes to
rk8479 wrote:
im wondering if im going for my A2 then would i need a bigger capacity machine

No to
rk8479 wrote:
or could it be passed on a 125cc?

And no to
rk8479 wrote:
could i use one on public roads with L plates on before it?


You can borrow one for the day, but you're not allowed to ride it to the test centre, so you'll need a mate to do that, or trailer it there. TBH, it's a lot less hassle to use a school. Then you don't have to worry about insurance if you have an accident etc. Plus, are you that good that you think you can jump straight onto a bigger machine and pass the tests with no practice?
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 22 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll need a bike that's 395cc+ and making between 25kW and 35kW.

There's a list of them here.

You'll be surprised how few bikes are on the A2 list. Note how most of them say "restricted", which means you'll need a convincing looking bit of paper from a super-secret list of "recognised restriction specialists" that claims that the bike has been restricted to 35kW. A dyno "cert" won't cut it.

Note also that the CB500 listed is the new one, not the old one. In terms of cheapish bikes that are natively A2, you're looking at the Suzuki GS500 or DRZ 400, maybe an XJ400 if you can find one, or a Virago 535 or 650 (not listed but fine).

Then you've got the hassle of getting it insured on a provisionaL license. The DSA don't check (they just ask you to confirm that you're insured to ride it) but if it's not on the MID then you're risking a tug.

So you can do it yourself, but it's less hassle to go via a training school. Give the local ones a call, see how much you're looking at.
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