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9:35, they'll have had their cocoa and be in bed by now.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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To be honest, if I'd had an ounce of sense, I'd have bought an NC700S/X, and may well look at them when the BMW inevitably does what modern BMWs inevitably do. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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I've had the 'S' since late November and have put about 8,200 miles on it as of this morning. I can only compare it with what I've ridden previously: CBF125, BMW G650, Suzuki Gladius. (The latter two on DAS courses.) The closest in feel is the BMW -- the NC feels a tiny bit bigger and heavier at very slow speeds. However, I was using the lowered seat on the BMW.
The engine feels strong and torque-y up to legal limits. After 70mph on the motorway, it's a bit of work, but I've gone hours at 80-85 with my wife on the back without too much effort. Certainly on urban/suburban roads, it feels just as powerful as the Gladius, which on paper has nearly twice the horsepower (albeit similar torque). On country roads, even very steep gradients two up, the engine pulls strongly and feels effortless. However, I have hit the low rev limiter (6500) once or twice when hard accelerating from a sliproad onto a motorway, which is a bit disconcerting. You get used to shifting up earlier.
Riding it is easy -- it flicks around, despite weighing more than average -- and I find the seat comfortable, although others have complained about it being too firm -- my wife, for example, who now uses one of those gel seats.
The fake-tank storage is brilliant. Easily big enough to hold my full-face (Shoei XR1100). Day-to-day, I keep my spare visor, bag of ear plugs, full toolkit and various paperwork in it. We've done a week-long trip on the bike and managed to pack for two using just the top box and the fake tank.
The reliability seems good so far. It just had its 8,000 mile service. It didn't use a drop of oil. I needed to replace the front brake pads and opted to replace the rear ones (they were close), as well. The tyres (BT 023) are probably good for another couple of thousand miles, at least.
The finish seems good except for the aforementioned cowling around the front headlight. I see a chip there and will probably get that replaced under warranty. The black rubber buttons either side of the LCD clocks have faded a bit from exposure. (I park it outside, but covered at night.)
The fuel tank is a bit small, at 14 litres, but I still typically get 170 miles out of it before the warning light in urban traffic and more on motorway/A-road journeys. And when I fill it, I usually only fit 10-11 litres, so the tank range is probably easily more than 200 miles if I want to play chicken.
I've added a taller screen (skidmarks, or something like that?), crash bars, top box, heated grips and a ciggy lighter (12v) socket installed in the fake tank. I also got the optional main/centre stand. In hindsight, I might have considered the 'X', because a bit of fairing would have been nice on long trips in the pissing rain, but I liked the look of the S better and the slightly lower seat (I have a 30" inside leg).
I would get it again. I don't think I made a mistake. It's very good commuter and perfect as a first big (well, mid-sized) bike. ____________________ Current: '14 VFR800X Test passed 31/10/12.
Previous: '12 NC700S, '11 CBF 125, '04 SH 125.
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| esullivan wrote: |
Riding it is easy -- it flicks around, despite weighing more than average -- and I find the seat comfortable, although others have complained about it being too firm -- my wife, for example, who now uses one of those gel seats.
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I wasn't too keen on the seat initially, but it seems to have broken in a bit now - I'd now class it as comfy.
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The reliability seems good so far. It just had its 8,000 mile service. It didn't use a drop of oil. I needed to replace the front brake pads and opted to replace the rear ones (they were close), as well. The tyres (BT 023) are probably good for another couple of thousand miles, at least.
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I think I got around 13k out of the BT023s, now running PR3s, which inspire more confidence in the twisties.
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The finish seems good except for the aforementioned cowling around the front headline. I see a chip there and will probably get that replaced under warranty. The black rubber buttons either side of the LCD clocks have faded a bit from exposure. (I park it outside, but covered at night.) |
Funny you mention the buttons, I noticed that on the way to work this morning, they've faded quite badly so they seem to be made quite cheaply, I'll have to put some rubber restorer on before they perish I reckon!
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The fuel tank is a bit small, at 14 litres, but I still typically get 170 miles out of it before the warning light in urban traffic and more on motorway/A-road journeys. And when I fill it, I usually only fit 10-11 litres, so the tank range is probably easily more than 200 miles if I want to play chicken.
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200 miles is definitely do-able, I fill-up every other day (~160 miles) but I've gone the extra 40 miles before when I forgot to fill up the night before - I ran out on the way home though!
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I've added a taller screen (skidmarks, or something like that?), crash bars, top box, heated grips and a ciggy lighter (12v) socket installed in the fake tank. I also got the optional main/centre stand. In hindsight, I might have considered the 'X', because a bit of fairing would have been nice on long trips in the pissing rain, but I liked the look of the S better and the slightly lower seat (I have a 30" inside leg). |
Centre stand was definitely an essential purchase - did you get Honda heated grips or an aftermarket set? I tried buying Honda ones but they've _never_ got any in stock.
The taller screen helps wind blast on my body, but directs the wind blast directly into my face, it makes my helmet quite noisy - so it's a bit of a trade off with the shorter one. ____________________ '12 NC700S & '12 CB600F Hornet [Stolen by some dickless twat] Suzuki GT500 shed |
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| goto10 wrote: |
Funny you mention the buttons, I noticed that on the way to work this morning, they've faded quite badly so they seem to be made quite cheaply, I'll have to put some rubber restorer on before they perish I reckon!
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I only noticed it recently too. It's not something that jumps out at you, but it would be a problem if they split. I'll try rubber restorer too.
| goto10 wrote: | Centre stand was definitely an essential purchase - did you get Honda heated grips or an aftermarket set? I tried buying Honda ones but they've _never_ got any in stock.
The taller screen helps wind blast on my body, but directs the wind blast directly into my face, it makes my helmet quite noisy - so it's a bit of a trade off with the shorter one. |
The centre stand should be stock. Leaving it out is just to keep the sticker price low. On the grips, I just went for the Oxford ones, on the theory that I could go through two pairs of those for the same cost as the Honda one. I did get the Honda 12v, which is installed flush into the wall at the front of the fake tank. I found the same thing with the screen, but getting the wind off of my chest helped with the fatigue over long journeys and I wear ear plugs, so the noise around the helmet was of secondary concern. ____________________ Current: '14 VFR800X Test passed 31/10/12.
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Such as the drone in the drivers seat
I drove a Jazz once, work gave it to me to drive to Honda for training.
I was so bored, it was the dullest piece of turd I've ever driven, closely followed by the "peagoat" 107  |
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At the front, so that makes it a... Porsche.
On paper, it's very close to the G650GS in performance and economy. I could have lived with that, but not with the single cylinder vibes on the BMW. Ow, my prostate.
With hindsight I should really have tried the Honda before the BMW twin.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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I fear this thread has given Rogerborg buyers remorse...
The NC700 really does seem like the ideal bike for me though, (short motorway runs and town riding).
Only problem is to get to the Honda dealership from my house I have to pass the BMW dealership and i can guarantee the same day I go to buy a Honda they'd have a shiny approved used Rockster or F800S out front and i'd somehow end up buying that instead.  ____________________ 2007 BMW R1200R: On road
2009 BMW G650X Challenge: On road
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