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DukeRed
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: It's certainly not an NSR Reply with quote

Rah, I just got the bros back to the house. Scared the shit out of me, was the first time I got on a bike since I crashed the NSR and it handles like a pig! I can feel the weight of the steering when i turn left it wants to go more left and vice versa. Is this just because it's a bigger bike? I really don't feel comfortable on it especially when you brake and your nuts get taken out by the tank.

Sounds nice though Thumbs Up .

I don't know what's going on I'm just very freaked out by the bike.

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PostPosted: 10:50 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right I'm off, going to try and boost my confidence on the f'ing thing.

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PostPosted: 10:51 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the tyre pressures too.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had that problem with my BROS when I first got it.

Just ride it lots - you get used to it after a week or so - your nuts also harden to the pain. Wink
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duke red, are you a girl or a fella. Im so confused Confused

As for the heavy steering, check tyre pressure, check wheel alignment etc (bikes when brought more often then not were owned by chavs as im finding out) and just take it slow and build the confidence, you will no doubt be finding the engine braking fecking gay as i did but as you get used to it you get alot smoother. Btw one bit of advice i will give is watch out for slow tight u-turns with mates on the back, only time i came close to dropping mine.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engine braking is a good thing about a big bike.

On my way to work or whatever I very rarely have to touch the brakes, as I get the engine to do it for me, even at a red light if you approach it slow then it'll change before you have to stop - also guaranteed to beat anyone off the line as you are already moving.

Learn to love engine braking. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engine Braking is Thumbs Up It is very effective, I always use it...OK I don't go fast on my thing but it is still good coming up to traffic lights without having to touch the brakes.
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feeling alot more confident now but there is definately something wrong with it. The steering is weird, now I don't know if it's the right thing but I think it feels like understeer. The forks feel like ther over compensating everytime I turn.
It would be really handy if someone mechanically sound would ride it and see whether it just me or not.
I'm Luton based but work in Hitchin and not free saturdays. Any help would be cool.

Mind you since I didn't understand the km on the clock I hit 180km which turns out to be 112mph so I guess the speedo is naffed as well. Was downhill, wind behind me etc but still seems quite high.

Where is the oil and gearbox oil on it?

Im a bloke, yeah I know Jan girls name blah blah blah.

Cheers Jan
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somerset Scratcher wrote:
Engine Braking is Thumbs Up It is very effective, I always use it...OK I don't go fast on my thing but it is still good coming up to traffic lights without having to touch the brakes.


dear lord... you are on a 50cc two stroke scooter, that is restricted. God how do you stop yourself from flying over the front whenever the fearsome engine braking kicks in.

And yes i am aware engine braking is lovely, i do it alot, ive been riding with a shite front brake since ive had it, basically on engine braking. My point is when you clutch rev and let go, it lurches, when going round bends if you arent very smooth it will lurch. Whereas 50cc geared/125 geared 2 strokes roll on and so are very smooth even if you cock up
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
My point is when you clutch rev and let go, it lurches, when going round bends if you arent very smooth it will lurch.


Why would you clutch, rev and let go round a bend?
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
bonny_ricardo wrote:
My point is when you clutch rev and let go, it lurches, when going round bends if you arent very smooth it will lurch.


Why would you clutch, rev and let go round a bend?


i dont, altho that said round mini roundabouts and u turns you need clutch in to keep smooth. But my point being thats a good way to KNOW you have heavy engine braking, on two strokes you hardly feel it unless you change down instead of up... then you get made aware of it.
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:


Why would you clutch, rev and let go round a bend?


I think he is after the insruance money...
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry double post.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you need an opinion on how a bros should feel, id be happy to pop up sometime, i like to think my bros is almost there handling wise, apart from the spongy rear shock
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engine braking is a COMPLETELY different affair on scooters mate.

On a geared bike changing down will at the right point will increase the revs enough so the engine is reving higher than the wheel is turning, therefore the engine will slow the wheel down.

On a scooter engine braking is effectively the same process, just without the downshift, it just occurs when you are coasting with no throttle, and it takes a long time to lose a little speed whilst "engine breaking" on a scooter.

I love the noise my dads old z1000 makes as he engine breaks into corners, you get that deep in-line 4 grunt, then roars out the corner using all the tourque. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Wow i passed on some knowledge.

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PostPosted: 23:51 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somerset Scratcher wrote:
Engine Braking is Thumbs Up It is very effective, I always use it...OK I don't go fast on my thing but it is still good coming up to traffic lights without having to touch the brakes.


You can use engine braking on a 50cc scooter with no gears??? Shocked

How can this be possible mate? Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 00:18 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

i rode a scooter for two years, and i would like to take this moment to point out, scooters do have engine braking, its especially apparent if you havent ridden a bigger bike either

you may think rolling off the throttle on a scooter is like putting a geared bike into neatral or pulling the clutch in, its not. end of story, roll off the throttle and the scooter slows down, put a geared bike into neatral and you just coast, its very possible to ride a scooter around without using the brakes excessively

centrifugal clutches will provide engine braking to the point where it disengages and allows the bike to idle without going anywhere

stop talking to him like he is a fucking idiot, it annoys me intensely!!

half the people making comments have never ridden a scooter on the roads, if i was talked to like that when i was on here 2 years ago riding my scooter, enjoying it, and asking questions then i wouldnt have stuck around very long, respect please
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PostPosted: 08:47 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said Goose. Thumbs Up
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