Crash bang wallop, whose fault?

[Benno]

A short video of what seems to be a SMIDSY, but with messy results:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjN90iHtXcI

A lot of the commenters think it is the bikers fault because he appeared to be going fast.

So let's hear it from our own (biased?) perspective. Who is at fault?
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[TUG]

Gotta say... the biker seems to be at fault here, he could of stopped I reckon? Could be wrong, the car driver too could be at fault for not looking before pulling out, they drive on the right there so.

Hmmm tricky one really.
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[Ariel Badger]

The car could not cross because of the bus stopping after the junction so it was the nob who put the bus stop in a stupid place that should take the blame. And the biker was riding like a dick.
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[cimbian]

Assuming the limit was 30 (or thereabouts) the biker was at fault.
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[TheSmiler]

Bike going too fast most probably, but what a retarded car driver. He pulls out of the junction then carries on going in a straight line, there is no turning signal so he obviously isn't attempting to turn and there is nothing on the opposite side.

Personally IMO it should be car driver 70-30 motorcyclist.
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[Dave70]

I'd agree, poor obs from both really. The car should have seen the bike approaching and the rider should have seen the car and anticipated the possible outcome.

I would say though that the car hold more blame for pulling out when it wasn't safe to do so but, the rider seems to be going way too fast for that stretch of road.

[Pete.]

If the car didn't pull away from a standstill, across multiple lanes, there would have been no accident. That biker had no chance once the car started moving.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[Rogerborg]

Car driver is passively incompetent, biker is actively idiotic.
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[Lord Percy]

I'd blame the car. The speed of the biker can't be argued unless we know the limit of the road, but either way it was his right of way. The car pulled in front.

Bike did look pretty damn fast, to be fair. But the car is the one who did the whole 'impeding the flow of traffic' thing.

That's my take on it anyway.

[Sload]

Without knowing the details of speed limits and specific laws there, I would side with the biker being at fault in that. Regardless, he should have been able to stop but he/she was travelling way too fast.

You can actually see the car moving at two speeds in the video so it was slowed down for the front screen view. That biker was really pegging it, the driver possibly didnt see him as he would have been pretty far away but closed very quickly.
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[Pete.]

You can't really rely on fish-eye cameras to give a good idea of speed. My little MD80 makes it look like I'm going much faster than I actually am.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[Rogerborg]

The number isn't really relevant, he was demonstrably going too fast to stop approaching a junction on a suburban bus route. Geezers gonna getchya.
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[Pete.]

[Benno]

How do you know the limit of the road anyway?

It doesn't look to me like he was going ridiculously fast. It's quite hard to tell anyway.
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[dodgydog]

What was the car driver doing? He wasn't making a normal right turn, looked like he was heading straight over the road in front of the bus? (into a driveway?)
A normal right would have seen the biker have chance to brake, possibly hitting the rear of the car.

Looks to me like the biker saw it and crossed the centre line to try go around the emerging car, only for the car to cross the centre line also, not giving the bike much of a chance.
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