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Paris2
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Seeing a Counsellor/Therapist/Psychologist Reply with quote

Hi,

I would like some help and info on seeing a Counsellor/Therapist or Psychologist, preferably on the NHS.

The only way I can think to see one is to talk to my GP, which I am more than happy to do but have to wait 2 weeks for an appointment and then god knows how long for the referral.

So does anyone know of a different route or anything else I should consider?


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PostPosted: 13:27 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, trainee shrinks...

£15 per hour I paid.
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got to see one within days, but there again I had lost it slightly.

What makes you think you need to see someone?

Mine was too much stiff upper lip and then Bang!
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can go to any you like if you're prepared to pay, but if the NHS pays it'll only be via referral.
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're only interested in going down the NHS route even with a GP referal you can expect a very very long wait sometimes of months unless you're deemed 'at risk' or anything along those lines of course in which case things can be fast tracked often.

If you haven't seen the GP already i would first speak to them before planning to go on for the counselling and see what his opinions on it are - not to say all doctors are good mental health assessors though Confused

You may benefit first more from speaking to a mental health nurse if you can get a GPs referal there who can consider if counselling/therapy etc is the right route you want to be taking for whatever reasons it concerns.

I'd be cautious of who and where you go for private counselling also if you do go down that route, although they're acredited and love to hang all their pretty papers on the wall, half of them aren't particulary beneficial for many peoples issues, or value for money either - but of course they will happily take your money none the less Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: 15:10 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

£40 an hour private.

Well worth it!! I had some issues that needed straightening out... and I talked a lot about stuff that I had no idea was even bothering me.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
If you're only interested in going down the NHS route even with a GP referal you can expect a very very long wait sometimes of months unless you're deemed 'at risk' or anything along those lines of course in which case things can be fast tracked often.


NHS offered me councelling or CBT . . I opted for the latter. I got an appointment in about 6 weeks..... I couldn't follow the program though because of childcare /work commitments. But thats not a bad wait really.
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of it depends on location often ive found, in Bristol as a large city theres very long waits, sometimes though in a small town you may find its much less even though theres far fewer professionals actually in the area. The problem tends to be the level of mental health care per head doesn't tend to increase like that of normal healthcare support, so when you might get a new hospital built for every 100 000 people, they don't always bother to consider an extra mental health team for that same group.

Great budget management by the NHS to thank for that Rolling Eyes Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I walked into the Doctors, had a small chat, went home and had the rapid response team out within an hour. Went to see a nice lady a couple of days later.
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you go and stand on a motorway bridge for long enough and end up getting the police called out, NHS mental staff will speak to you, faster than a referal Thumbs Up

Genuinely... it works well. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will take a while. If you don't feel you can wait, call the GP back and say that you need an emergency appointment and don't be fobbed off with a 2 week wait. It will still take a while for the referral to go through though.

In the meantime, see if there is anyone you can call. If you have a specific issue, there may be a specific helpline. If not, the Samaritans are not a bad place to start. They will listen, and might have some other suggestions for places to get help.

Good luck with it all. It is shitty feeling shitty. You are not the only one and there is help out there. x
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Locally I think the waiting list was quoted as about 6 months for the mental health nurses, but a real wait of about 3~4 months.

Possible you could try going direct to MIND or similar.

Paying £40 an hour could get rather expensive over a few dozen sessions.

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PostPosted: 18:29 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

GP appointment doesn't take 2 weeks, you should be able to get an appointment the same day.
-Matt- wrote:
A lot of it depends on location often ive found, in Bristol as a large city theres very long waits, sometimes though in a small town you may find its much less even though theres far fewer professionals actually in the area. The problem tends to be the level of mental health care per head doesn't tend to increase like that of normal healthcare support, so when you might get a new hospital built for every 100 000 people, they don't always bother to consider an extra mental health team for that same group.

Great budget management by the NHS to thank for that Rolling Eyes Thumbs Up

AWP in Bristol are fast for lots of things. If necessary then referrals for psychologists or cbt are fast

Mental health hospitals and staff numbers in the AWP area are decreasing, some wards have been closed, crisis teams have been rebranded, outpatients places have been rebranded.
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some companies (via work) offer counselling / wellbeing sessions. There are also companies online who offer doctors to chat to in real time, such as 'justanswer.co.uk'. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 03:07 - 30 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

GP referral is the way to go. Do not embellish your symptoms to try and get seen faster - you'll just end up referred to the wrong people. If you're losing it and the walls are getting a bit close, you need a decent psychiatrist. Tell them you're hearing voices to get bumped up the list, and you'll get referred to the local team that deal with schizophrenics.

It's the equivalent of going to see a gynecologist for athlete's foot.
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PostPosted: 03:29 - 30 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had counselling a few times now over the same issue sort of, most of it was through North Staffs Mind, although I had some through college (that I turned down after 1 session the guy was useless).

Believe it took me about 1/2 weeks to get through to them when I was at school but then offered a place (decided not to take a few months later). When you go/get refereed make sure you talk about the truth of what you are feeling don't make anything up as it will be harder to get the help that way.

To be hones it didn't work for me even though the Mind counsellor was great it didn't do anything for me or help me in any way at all. But you have to bear in mind it might not help everyone.

Personally I'd say go through the GP route/ have a look for locally funded health organisations that offer counselling.
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PostPosted: 05:13 - 30 Jul 2013    Post subject: Re: Seeing a Counsellor/Therapist/Psychologist Reply with quote

Paris2 wrote:

So does anyone know of a different route or anything else I should consider?




You could just attempt to MTFU and stop being so soft.

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To be honest though, given that you've already posted a thread about being all of a ghey, I doubt MTFU is an option for you anymore.

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PostPosted: 06:13 - 30 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:


It's the equivalent of going to see a gynecologist for athlete's foot.


Yes, Gynaecologists look after what is between your two big toes. Laughing
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PostPosted: 06:21 - 30 Jul 2013    Post subject: Re: Seeing a Counsellor/Therapist/Psychologist Reply with quote

mistergixer wrote:

You could just attempt to MTFU and stop being so soft.


That WAS my problem, The stiff upper lip, taking it all on my shoulders, not complaining and just getting on with it. Eventually you pop.

You can see how some cope with issues on here, by being Mr Angry calling people Scvm and such like, putting others down in vile ways or just sniping at peoples heels.

Others need to be given a way to cope, or to think of things in a different way.
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PostPosted: 07:10 - 30 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
Robby wrote:


It's the equivalent of going to see a gynecologist for athlete's foot.


Yes, Gynaecologists look after what is between your two big toes. Laughing


Not so far from the truth.

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PostPosted: 15:37 - 01 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Reading if you need to see someone they send you to 'talking therapies' which is four 1 hour telephone sessions and a work book.

£40 per hour private is a bargain if there is a real issue that needs dealing with.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 01 Aug 2013    Post subject: Re: Seeing a Counsellor/Therapist/Psychologist Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
mistergixer wrote:

You could just attempt to MTFU and stop being so soft.


That WAS my problem, The stiff upper lip, taking it all on my shoulders, not complaining and just getting on with it. Eventually you pop.

You can see how some cope with issues on here, by being Mr Angry calling people Scvm and such like, putting others down in vile ways or just sniping at peoples heels.

Others need to be given a way to cope, or to think of things in a different way.


What is the solution to that sort of problem then?

S.W.E.D.?
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 01 Aug 2013    Post subject: Re: Seeing a Counsellor/Therapist/Psychologist Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:


What is the solution to that sort of problem then?

S.W.E.D.?


S.W.E.D. ? I don't recognise the acronym.

Talking it out helped me, some need more, I just needed to know that I was normal and my emotions were normal. I was also given coping strategies, which basically, for me, are to not give a fuck so much.
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 01 Aug 2013    Post subject: Re: Seeing a Counsellor/Therapist/Psychologist Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
mistergixer wrote:

You could just attempt to MTFU and stop being so soft.


That WAS my problem, The stiff upper lip, taking it all on my shoulders, not complaining and just getting on with it. Eventually you pop.

You can see how some cope with issues on here, by being Mr Angry calling people Scvm and such like, putting others down in vile ways or just sniping at peoples heels.

Others need to be given a way to cope, or to think of things in a different way.


Thing is, a lot of people are made to go pop by those very "scvm" you mention. Thinking
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 01 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait. You mean to say you think there is a problem that the powers of BCF can NOT sort out for you? C'mon, what's up - we'll give it our best shot. Honest. Shifty
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