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metalangel
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: "nothing in common" Reply with quote

Spun-off from the PoF thread.

FiBob wrote:

Yeah, I kind of agree with you on that one. I think if you're too similar it just doesn't work. Sharing a few of the same hobbies is a good thing, but I like how we have very different tastes when it comes to a night out or music; gives us time to have "me" time and enjoy life still.


Ugh. Last night a friend I haven't seen much of over the summer invited me to go for dinner. We chatted away and caught up on everything that's been happening in our lives: I told her that my relationship was over (she was only a little surprised, she knew things hadn't been great), she told me her (incredibly complicated, too much to go into here) relationship with her boyfriend wasn't doing well either.

I should point out that some time ago we both confessed that we like liked each other, but nothing ever came of it or happened.

After we ate we walked down the street for a bit, she had things to do but didn't really seem to want to leave just yet, so we sat down and carried on talking. She told me she didn't see much of a future with her boyfriend, and wanted to find someone with more ambition (she is trying to turn her life around), as well as someone where every discussion or debate doesn't turn into a domestic. The problems were, in her view:
1. She has probably narrowed her potential guys down to maybe five in the whole city
2. She doesn't want to be single. She has a number of mental issues ( Police Police Police ) and hates to be alone - I would go over to her house because she didn't want to sit on her own

So at this point, stupid here (me) makes a really dumb suggestion: maybe the two of us should spend some time together? We're both getting out of relationships, it's not going to be easy and having someone to talk to who's going through the same thing can really help you not feel alone. Nothing serious, this isn't a rebound thing, just for those awful moments when you're suddenly you're by yourself, you're not.

Well, at this moment she becomes flushed and I realize I've made a big mistake saying this. She tells me she just 'can't' and doesn't feel that way about me any more and starts listing reasons why she can't. The end result is that I now feel awful for bringing this up again and adding to the list of things she'll worry about.

My point? Much of her list 'why' was that we were too different as people, our interests were too different, all we ever do when we get together is complain about stuff. That's all you ever want to talk about, and you can't say I complain about my relationship too much when you complained about yours (and your family) too. You have to go out and have shared experiences, get more stuff to talk about, not just sit in a cafe.

Kinda spoiled the evening, that did. I need to MTFU and get on with things, but god freakin' dammit why does she have to have a smile that melts my fucking heart?
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL:DR

You offered her a penis to cry on, she was like "oh hell no". You went home and fapped using tears for lube.

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PostPosted: 15:28 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

GhostRider wrote:
TL:DR

You offered her a penis to cry on, she was like "oh hell no". You went home and fapped using tears for lube.


/thread, tbh.
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awww, you turned my post into a whole new thread Very Happy

I don't agree with her rationale on that one. I view the fact that you guys could complain about your relationships etc as a good thing - it just means your uber comfortable around each other, and that communication between you wouldn't be much of an issue as you have already had ample opportunity to do this (even if it didn't relate to you as a couple). You're already pretty open where this is concerned Smile

I think, from what you said, it could be her head that is the issue. Us females that have what others class as mental health issues just make us more vulnerable, less able to put ourselves out there, and deem ourselves unworthy of most men. Depends on what hers are though - for me it's just anxiety.

Maybe she viewed what you said as rebound material and she either isn't open to getting hurt again, or she genuinely doesn't feel that way because she's opened up so much, and you've been put in the friend zone. the big list of "whys" are a defense mechanism. We make up shitty excuses when we can't make a valid and rational argument to justify our feelings - "i don't have those feelings for you anymore" would have sufficed.

I still stand by what i said. If you are too similar or too different then it might not work, but some differences are good - they allow us to keep part of us for the rest of our lives and not completely merge into a "we".

As for getting out and doing stuff, and not just sitting in a cafe - well, maybe if it had been a date more effort would have been made, but the intention wasn't there, until it happened. You share experiences - it's called give and take. You get involved in your OH's interests even if it isn't you cup of tea - oh, and those things you don't share - they give you loads to talk about! Very Happy

Don't view this as one more thing she'll worry about. As lovely as she (and her smile are), that's not your (this sounds harsh) problem - it doesn't sound like it's much of a big deal anyway, and your friendship will pick up soon enough and carry on from where it did.

Haha - essay finished Smile
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:36 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Oh, you're single? Suddenly I find you far less appealing." ~ Every uterus ever.

She's not wrong though. Dial down the emo-mope and go and be awesome. Maybe get a medallion.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:47 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 16:08 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

She thinks you are her Shoulder to Cry On Friend.
At best, you'll only ever be a Desperation Shag.

And then she will phone you one day to tell you about the new guy she just met and is crazy about - and you will have a broken heart, instead of just a pulled-about one.

Get over her.
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
"Oh, you're single? Suddenly I find you far less appealing." ~ Every uterus ever.
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That is soooooooooooooooo true. I never understood it and still don't.
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
"Oh, you're single? Suddenly I find you far less appealing." ~ Every uterus ever.
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That is soooooooooooooooo true. I never understood it and still don't.


Attached man: "Well, some other woman has made a commitment to him so there must be something great about this guy. WHAT IS IT? I MUST HAVE IT FOR MYSELF."

Single man: "All men are after only one thing, and you're not getting it from elsewhere. If you were really all that you'd have a girlfriend."
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Attached man: "Well, some other woman has made a commitment to him so there must be something great about this guy. WHAT IS IT? I MUST HAVE IT FOR MYSELF."

Single man: "All men are after only one thing, and you're not getting it from elsewhere. If you were really all that you'd have a girlfriend."


I thought it was more like :

Attached man: smells "single female" hormones and conveniently forgets to mention he ALREADY has a girlfriend.

Single man: Either acts too desperate or too face/bothered. Gets nowhere because of this.
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also valid. The attached guy knows that if he gets shot down, so what? He's got his missus at home. No problem. The single guy, meanwhile, is terrified of screwing up his chance with the pretty thing he's talking to and is compelled to make a cack-handed move ASAP in case he never has the opportunity again.

His head is filled with reams of contradictory information from relationship columnists telling him that girls really like a guy who is showing attention and interest, so ignore her and act disinterested to make her chase you (spluh?)

And, of course, there's this terror:
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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all we ever do when we get together is complain about stuff. That's all you ever want to talk about


Been in a similar situation to that, have to agree with her opinion to be honest, as much as its valuable to have someone to moan about everything and get it all our your system once in a while, its hard to besides these moaning-occasions get something positive out of it after a while i think.

Different interests and the other lark though isn't at all relevant i'd say, my current mrs doesnt like bikes although she doesnt care i ride them, and yeah... same with everything else really - we don't have any interests in common besides going on holiday and the usual Laughing doesn't mean we don't get on though
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:

Been in a similar situation to that, have to agree with her opinion to be honest, as much as its valuable to have someone to moan about everything and get it all our your system once in a while, its hard to besides these moaning-occasions get something positive out of it after a while i think.

Different interests and the other lark though isn't at all relevant i'd say, my current mrs doesnt like bikes although she doesnt care i ride them, and yeah... same with everything else really - we don't have any interests in common besides going on holiday and the usual Laughing doesn't mean we don't get on though


I have other friends that I moan about stuff too, and they moan to me, but then we change the topic to something else. Because she has so much wrong she has a lot of moaning to do. We were out for three hours, and almost everything was a moan.

How was her trip to Mexico? She complained about the friend she went with, the people she met, and the food. Oh, and the quality of the weed she bought.

How has your summer been? Awful, b/f problems, family problems, roommate is cool at least.

You're going to that weekend retreat thing tomorrow right? Yeah, not looking forward to it, wish I wasn't going now, etc.

She doesn't have a very happy time of it most of the time, doesn't get out much, hence my encouraging her to come do stuff. It isn't easy as she isn't a fan of crowds or people in general. My closest friend, by contrast, is up for going for an adventure any time whether it's going to the beach or shopping or just for a walk to somewhere new.
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds a hard flip - on one hand she could be great fun once you manage to encourage her to come out etc i guess, but then on the other hand - she might not be encourageable, and do you really want the hassle of becoming someone she begins relying on extensively if that will be the case and you're required more and more to be a sponge absorbing all her negativity.

I'd steer clear beyond the occasional meetings personally Neutral
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you wanted to date her having just witnessed her say she has mental issues?
Also she clearly can't cope being single. Any woman like that will turn needy in a matter of days.
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

metalangel wrote:
I want to pork her, but she whinges like a good'un

Isn't this pretty much a marginally lustier version of what you've currently got/getting out of?

TBH mate, I think that being single for a while might be just what you need - get your head straight, figure out what it is you actually want, like.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

EazyDuz wrote:
So you wanted to date her having just witnessed her say she has mental issues?
Also she clearly can't cope being single. Any woman like that will turn needy in a matter of days.


Whoa! Dont judge a girl based on her mental health! It could be totally under control and she's just like everyone else. And if not does she not deserve the same chance to prove herself as everyone else? Just because you may be a bit judgemental about it doesn't mean the OP does too
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

FiBob wrote:

Whoa! Dont judge a girl based on her mental health! It could be totally under control and she's just like everyone else. And if not does she not deserve the same chance to prove herself as everyone else? Just because you may be a bit judgemental about it doesn't mean the OP does too


2. She doesn't want to be single. She has a number of mental issues ( Police Police Police ) and hates to be alone - I would go over to her house because she didn't want to sit on her own.

A person, man or woman, who can't be happy by themselves should not get into a relationship. They become a huge burden on the other person which is very selfish.
The best way she can prove herself is by getting some counseling and self improving, showing she doesn't NEED anyone.
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I agree with the whole scred to be alone thing. You can't be happy with someone else until you're happy by yourself.
But please, until you know what "mental issues" she has - stop making it a flipping issue. God you're shallow
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I agree with the whole scred to be alone thing. You can't be happy with someone else until you're happy by yourself.
But please, until you know what "mental issues" she has - stop making it a flipping issue. God you're shallow
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding the talk of how women treat single and taken men differently:

I'm 5000 times more confident when I already have a girlfriend. No pressure to 'perform' in front of any other female, I do whatever the hell I like, feel more confident, feel like I could push the boundaries a bit and wouldn't care if I were knocked back because I already have a missus. Not that I'm a cheating swine at all, but that's how I psychologically feel. So as a partnered man, my character is more confident. And I don't need to pander to any other girl's interests, so there's no chance of being friendzoned either. So yeah for me personally, I even agree that I probably have more chance of scoring if I already have a girlfriend. Maybe it all links to prehistoric 'harem' psychologies, alpha male stuff, etc etc.
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

FiBob wrote:
Yeah I agree with the whole scred to be alone thing. You can't be happy with someone else until you're happy by yourself.
But please, until you know what "mental issues" she has - stop making it a flipping issue. God you're shallow


I'd hazard a guess that the mental issues she has prevent her from being happy alone.
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