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finniee
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: New tyres and slippy surfaces dont mix Reply with quote

So... have my CBF125, last week it was scorching done some decent miles ( gym and back 11.5 miles each way). This week has quite a fair well a cr*p ton of rain and realised new tyres and rain do not mix well. Ended up looking at the tail of my bike as it tried to over take me on a corner ( which I am getting 10 x better on), anyone else had this happen ?. Do my tyres need worn down more?, could it have been the angle i went through the corner at ? or even my speed?. I have no idea on what happened was wondering if this has happened to anyone ?.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like your rear wheel lost traction and you managed to stay shiny side up?

Be thankful it wasn't your front wheel..

Yes, new tyres and slippy roads aren't going to mix well, also maybe your lack of experience?

Take it steady, keep the bike as upright as possible and be as smooth as possible Thumbs Up

Wearing your tyres in will most definately help but this will just come with riding (obviously)

Ride safe Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers mate, shook me up a wee bit but was still on the bike. Ill just need to remember "slow in, fast out" not "fast in fast out".
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A skill you have to develop, especially on a 125 is reading the tarmac, manhole covers, painted tarmac, diesel spills or even stretches that look a bit shiny can be lethal if you hit them while leaning. So look well ahead and adopt a line that avoids those pitfalls.
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably a fair bit of bad luck considering the weather was so hot for ages it made the roads extra slippy, generally though new tyres are something to be cautious of at first, IIRC after 100-200 miles they tend to be 'normal' again but of course you need to still bare in mind to gradually lean more and more over the miles as if you havent leaned much the outsides of the tyre may still be 'brand new' when the centre is normal already.
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you checked the pressures with a pencil gauge since they were fitted? In my experience most fitters tend to over inflate tyres which leads to too little rubber in the road.
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If confident then lean the bike side to side a wee bit.
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 02 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Have you checked the pressures with a pencil gauge since they were fitted? In my experience most fitters tend to over inflate tyres which leads to too little rubber in the road.


Fella across the road checked it all for me and showed me how to do it myself he said the tyres are within the perimeters of being right.
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PostPosted: 03:50 - 03 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell him he should've said parameters. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 08:09 - 03 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try to keep the throttle on in corners as well. Not rolled on hard (obviously) but not coasting either, just gentle constant throttle. That's why it's 'slow in' so when you're in the bend there's no need to do any slowing down you can keep throttle held (and increase it as you exit).
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 05 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
Tell him he should've said parameters. Mr. Green


He did, I was using the phone, silly c*nting auto b*starding correct
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 05 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may sound daft, but the neighbour, is he a bike rider? If not and you didnt give him the correct pressures he may have gone for car type pressures. these are generally rather lower.
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 05 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Furrybiker wrote:
This may sound daft, but the neighbour, is he a bike rider? If not and you didnt give him the correct pressures he may have gone for car type pressures. these are generally rather lower.


Yes mate he is, wouldn't ask advice from someone who didn't know what they were talking about.
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PostPosted: 00:02 - 06 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
Probably a fair bit of bad luck considering the weather was so hot for ages it made the roads extra slippy, generally though new tyres are something to be cautious of at first, IIRC after 100-200 miles they tend to be 'normal' again but of course you need to still bare in mind to gradually lean more and more over the miles as if you havent leaned much the outsides of the tyre may still be 'brand new' when the centre is normal already.


You wear the slippery outside coating off in a few miles (obviously need to lean to wear down the outer edges). On a twisty road you could get them back to "normal" in like 10 miles, then it's just a case of getting them warm as usual. So there not as bad as you might think Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:54 - 06 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah thanks for correcting, not that bad at all then! Think i was thinking or bedding brake pads in perhaps?
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 06 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure bud, might just be from what other people have mentioned before. Some people play it safe and go very easy for a longer time like you said, but there's no real need IMO. Not sure what brake pads take to bed in, can't honestly remember the last time I had new pads fitted haha

If your not really on twisty roads often it may well take you 100+ miles to wear the whole tyre down to normal (because your not using the outer edges often) but the centre would be perfectly fine long before

If you think about it your only needing to skim that extremely tiny layer of the tyre before its bank to normal Thumbs Up

If it took that long to bed tyres in, slicks would be thrown away before there ready to use lol if you know what I mean
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 06 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget too that after a long dry spell the first rain can be lethal especially if there's a hint if oil or diesel on the road
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 06 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

trisers wrote:
Don't forget too that after a long dry spell the first rain can be lethal especially if there's a hint if oil or diesel on the road


Yeah, I was out for a wee run earlier and went around it - good thing about being the only vehicle on the road I can take corners quite wide and get the side of the tyres run in ( not even sure if that's what it is called)... But on a different note... I fekin love being out on my bike, It was like "aww I need to go into town" now its like "I GET TO GO INTO TOWN", Literally bounce of every wall in the house when I have the choice to go somewhere.
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PostPosted: 02:12 - 07 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

finniee wrote:
trisers wrote:
Don't forget too that after a long dry spell the first rain can be lethal especially if there's a hint if oil or diesel on the road


Yeah, I was out for a wee run earlier and went around it - good thing about being the only vehicle on the road I can take corners quite wide and get the side of the tyres run in ( not even sure if that's what it is called)... But on a different note... I fekin love being out on my bike, It was like "aww I need to go into town" now its like "I GET TO GO INTO TOWN", Literally bounce of every wall in the house when I have the choice to go somewhere.


Brilliant feeling isn't it?
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