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4 strokes more complex
4 strokes much harder and expensive to maintain
2 strokes are faster
4 strokes suck
2 strokes suck
4 strokes are much heavier
2 strokes break down
4 strokes break down and are expensive to repair and maintain
125cc 2 stroke makes the same power as a 250cc 4 stroke.
2 stroke get way worse fuel consumption
4 strokes are better nowadays
2 strokes are more fun
4 strokes cost you tons of money and most people get tired of them after the first rebuild, supposedly a ''rebuild'' can cost over 400?
4 strokes are better for daily? I dont really care for comfort when i ride a dirtbike tbh.
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Yep, that just about sums it up
Basically, 2 stroke a and 4 stroke are the most common types of engine (there is also wankle and a couple of other obscure types). To massively over simplify the matter, in a 4 stroke there is one explosion for every four strokes (Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow), in a two stroke there is a bang on every second stroke. Sine you have very little knowledge I won't go further in to it, I suggest a read of Wikipedia if you are curious.
For the most part 2 strokes are reliable enough and as you mentioned do tend to make more power for the capacity. Because of the way the engines work there is far less to go wrong, and when it does go wrong there is far less to fix. Also servicing is easier. Lastly, 2 stokes are cool, so get a 2 stroke
Engines are massively varied, and to say that all 4 stroke engines are bland and agricultural would be a lie. However 125cc 4 stroke engines are generally built to be economical and reliable so just sort of plod along. It is true to say that for the most part a 4 stroke engine will put up with neglect much better than a 2 stroke engine however when it goes wrong there are far more bits to break.
There is far more for me to write and I have barely covered anything on the subject but it is gone midnight and I am up early tomorrow. I'm sure somebody will beat me to it but if not I will add some more tomorrow. This should at least give you something to think about.
Last thing, here are the wiki links, have a read, you will see what I meant by Suck Squeeze Bang Blow. 4 stroke, 2 stroke. ____________________ I am a bellend, I am a man of constant sorrow, I am a gummy bear, I am a rock. |
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Well it wasn't hard to find a modern 2 stroke aka Aprilia SX125, as far as i've understood bikes are pretty straight forward... When buying a car it's a little harder. With bikes the brands aren't really THAT important? And what is it about emissions? You are allowed to drive a Veyron but a 125cc Bike creates too much emission? Someone please clear me up.
So what makes the 4 stroke get double the MPG than a 2 stroke does? Can someone tell me straight forward how many Kilometres i could cover with 1 liter of fuel with an Aprilia SX125? Longetivity/Reliability of the bike is not my priority, i want an everyday rider but still have some fun, if i was looking for a reliable everyday commuter i would buy a car... im not saying cars cant be fun (Nissan 200SX hell yea) but you get my idea. and shouldn't bikes get like a million mpg since they have a much smaller engine than a car and weigh 1/10th of a car? Are they underengineered or is it because of the high rpms? Look at this badboy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGi2-iFBYXU |
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Aprilia makes great bikes, my friend has an RS125. Rieju maybe isn't that well known but that's no reason to put it off, im a noob but haven't heard anything bad about them. Doesn't have to be Japanese necessarily... I would agree with you on cars tho. And im planning to buy a new bike from a dealer not used.
So if a 250 4 stroke makes the power of a 125cc 2 stroke then a 125cc 4 stroke makes a power of a 50cc 2 stroke?
Okay it seems like everyone are suggesting a 4. Do 2 stroke get worse mpg because the oil burns with the fuel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BXAd9ze3Q4 PLEASE read the comments on this video, people seem to have VERY strong opinions here. And 99% of the people seem to be cheering the 2 stroke. But im guessing a 450cc 4 stroke would get the same if not better mpg than a 250cc 2 stroke?
The bike im looking to buy: https://www.nettimoto.com/rieju/marathon/1527776 |
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Could go for an Aprilia RS4? (not that I know much about them) ____________________ Bikes : 2006 CBR125R - 2004 Monster 620ie - 2004 ZX-6R B1H - 2005 Monster S2R 800 - 2011 Street Triple - 2009 Streetfighter 1098 - 2014 ZX-6R 636
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Yeah you are right and you have been very helpful and answering my questions but im just bothered that a 125cc engine gets the same MPG as you average car even tho it is a 2 stroke, it just bothers me. Well then i could just get a 4 banger but then that will bother me because it's just slower than a 2 banger.
Looked up the MPG of the SX125. 35... review overall says it's bad. https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/Aprilia/Aprilia-SX125-2008-current/
Well i'll just look up some videos of the Rieju and the Yamaha WR125 |
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