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hornetmike
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 06 Aug 2013    Post subject: Any every got any points through the post from France? Reply with quote

Just spent 3 weeks riding round Europe, went through loads of cameras not fast but a few k over being told it was fine , just found out 2013 you get the fines through but can't work out from google if you get points?

Has anyone got point through the post ?
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FergieinFranc...
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 13 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

No you won't ...They won't bother....At the moment they do not
have the system in place to fine you by post, or for you to get endorsements. No doubt it will come in the not too distant future..
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 13 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

DVLA don't share the info with France. UK do not support the EU proposal as it sought the owner of the vehicle not the person in charge at the time.
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 13 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I set off 14 at well over the speed limit on the way through france last year and haven't heard anything.

Wasn't sure if the 5-0 would be waiting for us at the chunnel on the return trip though!
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FergieinFranc...
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 13 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can of course fine you on the spot, but again, no endorsement. In the past ten years l got radar zapped twice, ( in a car )..total fines came to 75 euro, but even living here, and with a French registered car, no points.....l can handle that. Never been pulled on the bike for anything...
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 13 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

brains_t wrote:
DVLA don't share the info with France. UK do not support the EU proposal as it sought the owner of the vehicle not the person in charge at the time.


Maybe France dont share it but Belgium does!!

At the request of brussells cops I was approached by Notts police and questioned about a collison I didnt have in Belgium.

Yes they do get dvla info.

They got the right reg a silver bike and I was in Belgium at that time but didnt have a collison
Somebody in a big traffic jam had a big bump that put a big dent in the back of his car then noticed a bike ahead of him and noted the number.
I did point out to hit a car hard enough to dent all the back in is going to bring you off a bike it doesnt take much to bend forks and I would have noticed it LOL
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 13 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been stopped in Calais while the police checked my details - I'm guessing they were looking for fines they could give me.

I was clean though.
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 14 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

brains_t wrote:
DVLA don't share the info with France. UK do not support the EU proposal as it sought the owner of the vehicle not the person in charge at the time.


Have you got source info on this?
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 14 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know they're bastards if they catch you on the spot, but I did go through some fixed cameras in France at *cough* miles per hour and I haven't heard anything from them.
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 14 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found it.

The important bit for us in the uk is in bold near the bottom of quote.

Click for full document

Quote:
Crossing Borders – Follow the traffic rules
(Source: ETSC – European Transport Safety Council, 20
th
August 2013) Drivers across the European Union will
face sanctions for breaking traffic laws even when driving in a foreign country. “Traffic laws apply to all drivers,
regardless of the country where their vehicle is registered,” said Antonio Avenoso, ETSC Executive Director.

The message is simple: as a driver, you would not break the traffic laws in your home country. You know the
authorities can follow up upon traffic offences. The same will apply abroad, acting as a deterrent to breaking traffic
rules.

These developments will come into force at the latest on Thursday 7th
November 2013, the deadline for EU
Member States to implement the Directive 2011/82/EU facilitating the cross border exchange of information on road
safety related traffic offences. The implementation of this legislation has a considerable life-saving potential and will
help improve road safety across the Union.

What will change? Nothing, if you are a law-abiding driver or motorcycle rider! Traffic laws are introduced and
enforced in order to save lives and reduce the risk of road collisions. This is a fact across the entire EU, and across
the world. It is thus fair for the authorities to seek to enforce these laws on all those travelling within one country;
the country of a vehicle’s registration should not mean that enforcement is more lenient.

Eight major road safety related offences are included in the text of the EU Directive:
 Speeding.
 Not using a seatbelt.
 Not stopping at a red traffic light or other mandatory stop signal.
 Drink driving.
 Driving under the influence of drugs.
 Not wearing a safety helmet – for motorcyclists.
 Using a forbidden lane – such as the forbidden use of an emergency lane, a lane reserved for public transport,
or a lane closed down for road works.
 Illegally using a mobile phone, or any other communications device, while driving.

As such, drivers crossing national borders within the EU must inform themselves of the traffic rules in the country
they will be visiting. According to a recent European Commission estimate, some 100m cross-border road trips are
undertaken annually in the EU, primarily for business and tourism purposes. As part of the Directive, EU countries
and the European Commission must inform road users of the traffic rules in each country. The European
Commission has set up a dedicated page at:
https://ec.europa.eu/transport/road_safety/going_abroad/index_en.htm

Additionally, TISPOL, the European traffic police network, has published a series of country driving guides,
providing information about national traffic laws: www.tispol.org

“We ask all drivers going abroad to access this information and comply with the traffic rules,” concluded Mr
Avenoso.

Background

To date, the UK and Ireland have decided not to opt-in to the legislation. This is in accordance to Protocol 21 of the
Treaty of the European Union, meaning that their citizens will be exempt from this important new road safety law
when travelling abroad. Additionally, Denmark, is not taking part in this Directive in accordance to Protocol 22 of the
Treaty. ETSC encourages these remaining Member States to opt-in as soon as possible. Neighbouring states
would also benefit from them opting in.


For more information, please consult the ETSC position on enforcement of traffic laws:
https://www.etsc.eu/documents/Enforcement%20in%20the%20EU_Vision%202020_29%20April.pdf,

Please click on the link below to read the text of the Directive 2011/82/EU:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2011:288:0001:0015:EN:PDF

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PostPosted: 11:26 - 14 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about france but America does! and I had not option but to pay it as I quite like visiting there unfortunately.
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 14 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went through a speed trap in France in a hire car at about 50km over in January. Have hired a car with the same company and heard nothing.
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 14 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went for just over a week last may, and didn't spend much time below 130mph. Nothing through the post, and loads of cameras were set off.
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 15 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are more and more cameras appearing on Frances roads and bye ways and whilst the make a healthy revenue from speeders they also cost a fair bit to buy, install and maintain so anyway to keep the money rolling in is essential.

I rode a UK registered bike in France for a couple of years whilst trying to register it in France, once or twice I was flashed by cameras, when I finally did manage to get the bike registered on French plates I had to hand over my V5 these were processed through their vehicle registration system and nothing alerted them to any motoring offense.

I do know the French have recently overhauled there entire registration system and taken it from regional control to national control changing the numbering system at the same time to conform to the EU directive, so they will be pushing real hard to have a cross border colaberation in place ASAP. Good to see the UK is staying clear of it though.

Lastly - DVLA can and do provide the details of the owner of a vehicle to people/companies/authorities who have a legitimate reason to know, we have had people stay with us who have allegedly received NiPs in the post from French authorities with a fine attached for payment they say they ignored them and have not had any follow up nor have they been stopped at the ports on returning to France on the same registered bike however on one occasion I was told that When asked a lawyer said that they should pay it... I personally have not had one of these so cannot comment further as to the legalities of receiving and not paying one.
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