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| Doorman95 |
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 Doorman95 L Plate Warrior
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 Posted: 20:51 - 01 Sep 2013 Post subject: Choosing a bike for me |
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I'm new to world of Biking and I don't know what to buy as my first bike. I am a rugby player, so I am short (5"10) and stumpy but have a bit of weight on my side. Am I going to be too short for some of these faster Moto's or will I be looking at something a little more chopper styled.
My main problem is that I love to go at some speed and I would have thought that my weight would have been something that would slow down the "off the line" speed. But also something thin enough to be able to do a safe over take on a "B" styled road.
Please help me those Biker's out there!
Cheers
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Your weight is going to make little to no difference to how a motorcycle performs on the road, unless you are so overweight that it affects your ability to control the bike but I guess that's not going to be the case here.
Best thing to do is go and test ride some bikes, really it's that easy  |
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| Rogerborg |
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Height doesn't matter, it's inside leg. If you're 30"+ then you're good for most bikes.
Weight doesn't matter for speed. It'll reduce your acceleration very, very slightly but not enough so that you'll notice unless you're whacking in lap times on a track.
Get licensed up, then pick any style of bike that you like. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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 adelaine041 L Plate Warrior
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 sabian92 World Chat Champion
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 Posted: 16:53 - 06 Sep 2013 Post subject: Re: Choosing a bike for me |
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| Doorman95 wrote: | I'm new to world of Biking and I don't know what to buy as my first bike. I am a rugby player, so I am short (5"10) and stumpy but have a bit of weight on my side. Am I going to be too short for some of these faster Moto's or will I be looking at something a little more chopper styled.
My main problem is that I love to go at some speed and I would have thought that my weight would have been something that would slow down the "off the line" speed. But also something thin enough to be able to do a safe over take on a "B" styled road.
Please help me those Biker's out there!
Cheers
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What licence do you have?
CBT, A1, A2...?
If you're CBT/A1 you're restricted to 125s and they're not really safe for overtaking anything  |
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 Posted: 16:16 - 07 Sep 2013 Post subject: RUDE |
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I would just like to say that I have some fat but bearly any, you see you dont know who I am and I dont know who you are, I am a rugby player and I am also a dead Weight lifter so I am afraid that for me to loose the weight would be that I have to sacrafice everything I enjoy doing!!! That comment that was made was very RUDE, and I am quite offended. I am trying something new that I have ne :ver done before and I ask a simple question that some one would kindly give some advice to help some one new to biking! not happy (Adelaine041) Not happy with you !!!
On another note, I have a size 52" chest and I cant find any jackets that have a 27" arm length, dose it matter what arm length I getor should I get as close to it as possible!? |
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| Doorman95 wrote: | I would just like to say that I have some fat but bearly any, you see you dont know who I am and I dont know who you are, I am a rugby player and I am also a dead Weight lifter so I am afraid that for me to loose the weight would be that I have to sacrafice everything I enjoy doing!!! That comment that was made was very RUDE, and I am quite offended. I am trying something new that I have ne :ver done before and I ask a simple question that some one would kindly give some advice to help some one new to biking!  not happy (Adelaine041) Not happy with you !!!
On another note, I have a size 52" chest and I cant find any jackets that have a 27" arm length, dose it matter what arm length I getor should I get as close to it as possible!? |
You'd probably find your playing improves if you loose a bit...
So I take it you'll be on a CBT as you're new to it, so a 125 only, really you won't be overtaking much at all. If it helps my CG sits at about 55/60mph quite happily and I'm the same height and around 95kg. ____________________ CG125, SV650S, CBR600F, GSXR600 SRAD |
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| stavros wrote: | If you think that was a rude comment on this site, then you have a lot to learn.
They will kill you for missing a colon or a coma.
Read the comment again without a chip on your shoulder and see that it is simply a question with a suggestion, end of.
I am the same height as you and could get on a vfr750 without problems,
it's not the height it's your inside leg that matters. Thats why a bike will have the seat height in the specs.
But it depends on your license restrictions as to what you can look at.
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What licence do you have?
CBT, A1, A2...?
If you're CBT/A1 you're restricted to 125s and they're not really safe for overtaking anything | . |
Indeed. This community has a wealth of information but it is masked under a lot of good hearted piss taking and general humour with occasional undertones of abuse. It isn't a personal dig at you - it's just how people are on here.
I'm 5'11 with a 28" inside leg - so taller bikes aren't that good for me even though i'm nearly 6ft. You need to see what you can ride licence wise then go and sit on them all to see what is comfortable. End of the day - we both could have a 10 inch cock but a condom designed for a skinny dick ain't going to be comfortable if you've got a mahoosive 10 inch wide boy is it?
Bad analogy but you get the point. Height makes no difference. Inside leg does. |
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I think the OP has
" got his coat ".
and did an Elvis
Thin skinned or what??  ____________________ VFR 750 in red ( the fastest colour) Not any more. TT600 is cool |
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 Panigale Derestricted Danger
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High performance car, let's take mine as an example, a 2011 BMW M3. 414 bhp and circa 1600kgs dry. A heavy guy will make little difference to the ptw ratio.
High performance bike, let's take mine as an example. 195 bhp and circa 170 kgs dry. A heavy guy will make a lot of difference to the ptw ratio and thus, performance.
Sports bike makers have for some time cut weight using titanium, carbon, plastic or by eliminating parts or combining two parts, etc. Often the saving over the previous model has been as little as 10 or even 5 kgs.
Laudible work, but pointless if the rider is carrying 20kgs of excess weight with him everywhere he goes!
For many people on sports bikes, the best performance modification they could make would be to lose 7 or 8 kgs in weight!
Losing poundage from the rider is much better than losing it from the frame or fuel tank or bodywork, exhaust system, etc. The weight lost by the rider lowers the COG and thus the bike does not just accelerate better but it stops and turns better.
If it's a Kawasaki 2053cc V-Twin, then it matters little but a sports bike goes best with a light rider and if you are overweight, the cheapest and best way of going faster is to lose weight and get fit.
None other than Kenny Roberts senior told me that back in 1980 and I have not forgotten it. I weigh the same 72kgs I did in 1980. ____________________ Panigale S |
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Right, because everyone rides at the ragged edge of their powerband while punching in laps of the M25.
OP's probably fucked it off and bought himself a Focus ST by now anyway. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| Panigale wrote: | High performance car, let's take mine as an example, a 2011 BMW M3. 414 bhp and circa 1600kgs dry. A heavy guy will make little difference to the ptw ratio.
High performance bike, let's take mine as an example. 195 bhp and circa 170 kgs dry. A heavy guy will make a lot of difference to the ptw ratio and thus, performance. |
So, are you suggesting that a motorcyle's acceleration is limited by the power to weight ratio?
I would suggest that something like your bike is limited by lifting the front.
A higher power to weight ratio would see it doing that more, not going faster.
To be fair, I haven't ridden the Ducati and on paper it's got massively gutless power delivery, so it may be more of an issue. However, I'd have thought even with high gearing it should still have 'enough' power there.
Any sports bike from the last decade plus is unlikely to be particularly faster with a lighter rider on.
As speed picks up, it's not weight but aerodynamics that are important. Quite likely this is where a smaller rider would make more of a difference.
Around corners, a lighter rider may well make a difference - however, there's also something to be said for ratio of sprung to unspung mass and this is why smaller riders with smaller bikes can find they're chucked around more than larger.
If it's a 2053cc V-Twin, I'd suggest it matters little because the riders probably a <fa>... gentleman of the tassle.
However, with the paltry power output, it's quite possible rider weight (even when you consider some of these are closer to my car than my bikes) will make more of a difference.
| Quote: | None other than Kenny Roberts senior told me that back in 1980 and I have not forgotten it. I weigh the same 72kgs I did in 1980. |
And back then it probably did make sense.
The 'superbike' concept has developed significantly since then.
I'd suggest you twist the throttle more . |
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