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Ribenapigeon
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 04 Oct 2013    Post subject: Enduro bikes between 250 and 650cc? Reply with quote

Can anyone recommend good Enduro bikes good for kitting out for traveling and under a couple of grand?
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 04 Oct 2013    Post subject: Re: Enduro bikes between 250 and 650cc? Reply with quote

Do you mean enduro or 'trail'?

Enduro bikes are made to win competitions.

The only one which seems to make a fairly distance long distance bike is the XR650R - and of course that was designed to win the Baja 1000, which is a little different to your average enduro.

What sort of off-road are you planning to be doing, if any?
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 04 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not so much off road for getting A to B but getting few hundred yards off the road to camp. A hard cor adventure bike would be over the top and expensive so just something tough and cheap.
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 04 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why limit yourself to such a style bike?

Any kind of dirt styled bike will likely be less smooth (presuming it's a single), more expensive to buy and run and so on.

Something like a GPZ500s should do you just fine if you want cheap.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 04 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought enduros had bigger tanks. Maybe I should have just said rugged with good range.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 04 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
I thought enduros had bigger tanks. Maybe I should have just said rugged with good range.


I'd rather have as G says a GPZ or something similar. I've been across fields and playing in mud and gravel on my GSXR750. Had double the range of my TTR600 Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 04 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

An enduro bike will often have a very small tank - so there's less fuel sloshing about.

A trail bike will likely have at best an average size tank.

People often buy bigger tanks for trail bikes to use them for adventure purposes.

Back to the GPZ - ride it at cheap trail bike speeds and you should get a very good range from the tank.

Rugged enough for what you describe.
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 04 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was an article in a bike magazine where some guys set off for africa with cheap old Honda XR400. So that got me thinking what cheap alternatives to big expensive adventure bikes are out there.
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 04 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
There was an article in a bike magazine where some guys set off for africa with cheap old Honda XR400. So that got me thinking what cheap alternatives to big expensive adventure bikes are out there.


Well, I'd do the trip on my old R1, I'd also love to attempt it on my Varadero, I know the Varadero would get me there. Its cheap, 250+ to a tank and costs peanuts to do anything to it
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 04 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
There was an article in a bike magazine where some guys set off for africa with cheap old Honda XR400. So that got me thinking what cheap alternatives to big expensive adventure bikes are out there.

First off, a 'cheap XR400' is actually quite hard to find.
And if you're going for lots of off road and don't mind keeping your pace, such a bike makes sense.
A lot more sense than anything BMW sells with 'GS' in it's name, certainly.

But, if you're not planning to do any serious off-road, I wouldn't go for something that has all the compromises such bikes have.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 17 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

DL650 (Vstrom) can get a pretty decent one for a shade over 2k
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 17 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

DL650 (Vstrom) can get a pretty decent one for a shade over 2k
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 17 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

conker wrote:
DL650 (Vstrom) can get a pretty decent one for a shade over 2k


I'm in the shade under 1k bracket Smile
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 17 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you not just use the XJ6 Neutral
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 17 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Can you not just use the XJ6 Neutral


i'd like a winter hack I can mess around with and modify and generally misstreat.
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 17 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

XT600?
Bit old like, but might be decent.
https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/yamaha-xt-600-tenere/1035671141
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 17 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah a Tenere would be good or an early Triumph Tiger.
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PostPosted: 05:53 - 18 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got an XT but wouldn't choose one for touring unless you're doing some pretty serious trails. It's not built for going over 70 really but otherwise is simple and a good little bike. If you're sticking to roads pick something road biased. See my sig for more details.
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 18 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any trips I do will be around scotland. So A and B roads and no need for motorway speeds.
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PostPosted: 09:17 - 18 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like Joe, I've got a big single trail bike and it wouldn't be my first choice for touring, which is why I've got a road bike as well.

I like the sit up, arms wide riding position, but you're stuck out in the breeze like a sail, so sustained speeds, even 50-60mph becomes a chore.

Plus there's the vibes from the motor, which gets a bit tiring after a while and it's starting to run out of steam at anything over 70, so you always feel like you're working it quite hard.

A decent screen and some hand guards fixes the first problem, but you really need a twin to get some smoothness and grunt, which brings you back to an adventure type bike.

I can see the merit in the big BMWs/Triumphs and I would seriously consider one for doing distance stuff, but only if the terrain was going to get a bit rough.

If it's all decent quality roads, stick to a road bike.
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 18 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ride magazine took a big GS, KTM and an XT round the arse end of Turkey and ended up deciding the XT was the best despite its engine being half the size.

I'm thinking maybe keep an eye out for an XT or a Baghira.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 18 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both the XT and mz are very heavy and slow. I don't see why you wouldn't get a multi cylinder bike, or just use your current bike, which sounds much more suitable!
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 18 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Both the XT and mz are very heavy and slow. I don't see why you wouldn't get a multi cylinder bike, or just use your current bike, which sounds much more suitable!


Because if I want to get a couple hundred yards off the road to camp or stash my bike before climbing a hill I don't think I want to do that on my XJ.
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 18 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not?

Why do you think an XT will be significantly better?

Ok, I did choose my KTM on a 90/10 kinda principal - but more that I was choosing a bike that was 90% appropriate for fun I would have 10% of the time (on a tour).
I did do some reasonable 'serious' off road stuff on it. Enough to break the sump guard in Spain Smile.
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