UK Govt & Corporate Crooks "All In It Together"

[Vincent]

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03bj88x/Panorama_Tax_Lies_and_Videotape/
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Watched this today.

Raged. They're not even trying to pretend they're taxing the rich for their fair share anymore.
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So what's new? The public are so retarded they won't watch it or don't care. Satiated by the latest distractions or enraged by some fake pedo-BB-celeb garbage.

Expect some Cameron-Clegg fanboys to chirp in with some absurd rationalisation or a "the Labour Party were as bad/worse and in bed with the corporate kleptocracy too", so it's all good and I can go back and live in my little bubble and forget all about it.

The whole system is a corporate criminal system from top to bottom. It's funny some people only just noticed.
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[N cee thirty]

Not like the general public can do sweet fa about it anyway, and if they did, they'd just get dobbed in by some cunt like in the riots.
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[Vincent]

There's still a lot of people who havn't realised the importance of this..... so the more it gets banded about the better.
The Govt have tried to make out they're addressing the matter to keep people happy but they're quite obviously duplicitous in the whole affair.
David Camerons inheritance was accrued through tax avoidance schemes through his fathers stockbrokers company so he obviously sees nothing wrong with large multi-million £ companies paying zero tax while opperating in the UK....while the NHS is sinking and waiting for the private health care sharks to take over, public amenities are being closed down and public services are lacking financial support.

It's absolutely fucking rediculous.
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Nothing new there, really .

With any set of complex rules, there will always be ways around it.

The more money you have, the easier it will be for most things in life.
This is why people try and get more money, of course.

Big companies run for shareholders are always going to be profits-focused.
Often the shareholders are the organisations that pay you interest on your bank accounts or lend you money for your mortgage etc at cheap rates. Further, they lend money to other companies, which can then use that to built new stores, internet businesses and the like which us people at the bottom patronise.

If a good proportion of the country chose where they spent their money using ethical investment principals, we'd likely be in a much better situation.

I was amused by him driving an old Mini - it's not just the government using subtle propaganda .

[krarkol]

It's never as simple as "Everyone pays tax!" then they lay out the percentages for different levels of pay.


Instead, they make it proper complicated. That way they can incorporate loopholes for themselves and their own to take advantage of. It's why people always advise you to get a good accountant when running a business
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[krarkol]

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I worked in an earlier Starbucks store - the first one in the good sized town I was in with the closest next one maybe 20 miles away.

They didn't expect to make a profit in that store for two years or so.

It's a premium product at a premium price.

If it was cheaper, it wouldn't be the same product (even if it was exactly the same product).

[Vincent]

Big business will eventually eat itself to death anyway. If nobody has any money they won't buy anything and, if nobody has a job, they won't be paying any tax.
The Germans had the right idea by investing rather than this austerity nonsense. Everything here is geared for maximum profit for the shareholders by increasing profits and lowering wages and fuck everyone else. Once they've bled the populus dry, they'll fold.
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[N cee thirty]

[Vincent]

The problem with HS2 is that a contractor gets the job for X amount and sees it as an open door to charge as much as they like.
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I would love to see much better contracts done - including reasonable penalty clauses for late delivery and no allowance of movement on price (unless of course new features are added.)

Of course, that would certainly push the price of quotes up; both because they'd be taking a bigger risk taking on the contract and just that they couldn't come in at an unrealistically low price.

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[Vincent]

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The rather massive omission they seem to have made is that investment bankers also contribute to the economy generally by convincing people that do have money to give it to them so they can 'invest' with others, which supports UK businesses generally.

By having a world renowned financial sector, we also bring a good bit of money in to the UK. And not tourists spending £10 on Union flag t-shirts.

Putting the banking crisis purely at the feet of the people doing this job is massive scape-goating and ridiculous to my mind.
Also rather silly they consider it an ongoing cost.

[fatpies]