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supZ World Chat Champion
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Posted: 15:40 - 11 Dec 2013 Post subject: |
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i don't get the finality of the 'don't warm it up' brigade.
if i started my bike from cold and tried to ride off straight away, it wouldn't work! i've tried and the high revving of the auto choke makes things interesting clutch control wise and trying to accelerate is jerky and problematic at best.
i normally start her up, get my helmet + gloves on and then its fine.
certainly don't leave it for like 20mins but a minute or 2 is required at least.
(n.b. don't bother even doing that with the car, turn on and off i go.. only time i'd leave that idling is if i want the heater warm before i get in ) ____________________ CBR954RR - Daily toy
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chris-red Have you considered a TDM?
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Not sure on this one. Using more throttle before the engine is warmed can mean that essential areas actually get less oil rather than more it seems. First a quote, then the full article. Makes interesting reading. (Actually refers to cars, and specifically, Ferrari).
Now you can see that the difference between the desired thickness your engine requires ( = 10 ) is closest to the 0W-30 oil at startup. It is still too thick for normal operation. But it does not have far to go before it warms up and thins to the correct viscosity. Remember that most engine wear occurs at startup when the oil is too thick to lubricate properly. It cannot flow and therefore cannot lubricate. Most of the thick oil at startup actually goes through the bypass valve back to the engine oil sump and not into your engine oil ways. This is especially true when you really step on that gas pedal. You really need more lubrication and you actually get less.
https://ferrarichat.com/forum/faq.php?faq=haas_articles |
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Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote: | mysterious_rider wrote: | I got someone scream at me as i warmed the bike up on the way to work. Just got to work, rang my mum and she went round the neighbors house and sorted it.
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You don't need to warm the bike up.
Start button, into gear and go.
If it runs crap when cold then sort it out so it runs properly. It's not difficult. |
that maybe fine for a machine with injected fuel system that is able to monitor it own temp and increase its air fuel mix accordingly to allow it to run when cold - carbed bike have little things called chokes. 15-30 on choke and you will get a very slow idle and extremely lumpy and hard to ride engine response, a minuite or so and the machine will be ready to ride, providing it a a oil or water cooled lump.
dont get me started on air cooled, you know the ones that over cool when being riden in cold weather and need choke while doing 60mph over the moorland pass and 16:30. i used to set the fuel misture rich to try and make it idle and run when in cold conditon on my GS5, still needed choke 12 miles into my 20 mile journy at well below zero temps ____________________ Current rides - 2016 Triumph Street Triple Rx, 1994 Suzuki Bandit 400 VM, TGB 204 Classic 125cc
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all my road bikes are 2 strokes and i warm them up gently before setting off - a minimum of 5 minutes of burbling on full choke, half choke
so its 2 stroke rattle together with clouds of sweet blue smoke when i set off!
he'd love me as his neighbour! maybe i should come visit for a weekend - and start my bike up at 7am sat and sun mornings! noise and smoke! ____________________ facebook / All tents Camping Group
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Bollocks to him, your far from taking the piss. I have some neighbours who used to use a small green next to their house to store their boats, some reason they went through a period where they enjoyed going out there and just revving the fuck out of the outboard engines. That was a little annoying, but my house is full of musicians playing drum kits and loud amps as well as housing workshops for the family business so plenty of banging and people coming and going Can't say shit really, especially now I have several loud motorcycles I use regularly
Recently my old/new next door neighbour (they rented the house one side of us then brought the house the other side! So he bloody well knew what he was buying into!) has been getting right uppetty about my bikes. First he requested I pull them onto the road to start, they all sit at the bottom of my drive between our houses, which is on quite a steep hill, CM is easy to push up, the VFR a pain and the Goldwing a proper workout, so I decided i would push them out from between the houses just not onto the road. Thanked me for this but recently has been throwing right little hissie fits, took the little old CM out to tesco, which needs warming in cold weather or it doesn't work! only about 10.30pm, pused it right out to the road, literally being as quite as possible letting it idle with just the right choke to stop it cutting out, after 30 seconds or so his curtains swung open and quite a cartoon image of a man on the edge of exploding screaming to himself appeared, I just shook my head at him Subsequent trips out on the bikes have not been so courteously initiated, making a point to get them nice and warm and then do a few little throttle checks before i pull off Thing is he's a biker! And when he lived the other side used to do exactly the same thing and start his bike up between the house, as well as a lumpy old camper van he used to let run for 15 minutes everything week, never bothered me. The blokes anger issues are his problem I couldn't give a shit! Same with any one else who can't handle the sound of other's getting on with their lives!!! ____________________ 1999 CBR900RR, 1984 CM200 (previously 125) |
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Well played sir ____________________ 1999 CBR900RR, 1984 CM200 (previously 125) |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 89 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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