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oldpink
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Police enter homes as break-in warning Reply with quote

Isn't that an illegal act ??

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South Yorkshire Police have adopted an unusual tactic to help warn people about the risks of burglary - by breaking in to homes themselves.

Officers attempt to enter unlocked houses, and leave a balloon to alert the residents about the ease of their entrance.


I'd be really pissed off if the cops did this to me

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24842680
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: Police enter homes as break-in warning Reply with quote

The Daily Mail, soon wrote:
Two South Yorkshire Police officers are suing after being slapped up by a homeowner/bitten by a dog in a homeowners house/somehow doing themselves a mischief following an attempt to break into their home as part of a new scheme to help warn people about the risks of burglary.


Inevitable.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Illegal only applies to civvies!


TBH I'd be tempted to leave a trap of come kind disguised as building work. But I'd get arrested for that.
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Criminals walk around street, spot a balloon and know that there's nobody in, and that there's an unlocked enterance somewhere, without even having to case it out themselves now
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would happen if they broke in and seen some weed on the coffee table?

No search warrant, B&E, trespassing......
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
trespassing......


Trespassing is the refusal to leave private property, going on land that isn't yours isn't trespass till you're asked to leave Wink
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:36 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

define breaking and entering....has any breaking taken place?
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

*sigh*

Unlawful entry then, not B&E


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PostPosted: 18:40 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
define breaking and entering....has any breaking taken place?



So you should put a priceless Ming vase behind the door? Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
What would happen if they broke in and seen some weed on the coffee table?

No search warrant, B&E, trespassing......


Not sure if we have a "fruit of the tainted tree" law over here. In the states it would be inadmissable in the vast majority of cases. I guess if it was visible from the outside they could claim reasonable suspicion, but then again they could do that anyway without breaking in.
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Locking your doors is pretty simple really and the police entering your house and leaving a balloon (Laughing) is better than being robbed!!

Doubt most police would be bothered about just some weed on the coffee table. If it's quality weed then they'll be able to smell it from outside your house anyway. Razz
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to live a few metres away from the house at 0:52, and a friend of mine got burgled by leaving her door unlocked and going to the shop whilst her friends were still in upstairs.

They knew nothing about it until my friend returned to find her stuff had gone (she had the ground floor room).

To be fair, if you leave the door unlocked it's your own fault.
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I live in a town where you can leave your door unlocked and not worry about it.

I used to live in a town where you'd leave your keys in your parked car in case anyone needed to move it.

All this is making out it is somehow the householders fault for not locking their door. It is not. It is the burglar who is at fault. He went around trying doors to see if they were unlocked so he could steal stuff. The intent was always burglary, you don't just happen across an unlocked house door then think "I'll just have a look round here to see what I can nick".

It's like saying it's your own fault you got mugged for going out in the street with money in your pocket.
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not the householders fault that they get robbed because they didn't locking their door, but it is an avoidable situation.

Plus I'm not so sure that house insurance would be willing to pay out if there wasn't forced entry?
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mk1GSF wrote:
In an ideal society, you should be able to leave your home unlocked, and know that all your possessions would be safe and still there when you come back.




I live in a society like that its called "Canada" Laughing


Apart from the major cities which attract the same scum that all cities have, No one locks there front doors here and cars/bikes are usually left with the key's in the ignition. Takes a lot of getting used after leaving the UK.
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Well I live in a town where you can leave your door unlocked and not worry about it.

I used to live in a town where you'd leave your keys in your parked car in case anyone needed to move it.

All this is making out it is somehow the householders fault for not locking their door. It is not. It is the burglar who is at fault. He went around trying doors to see if they were unlocked so he could steal stuff. The intent was always burglary, you don't just happen across an unlocked house door then think "I'll just have a look round here to see what I can nick".

It's like saying it's your own fault you got mugged for going out in the street with money in your pocket.


totally agree, I go to the shops and don't lock my door
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
What would happen if they broke in and seen some weed on the coffee table?

No search warrant, B&E, trespassing......


They could seize the weed, but without a warrant I can't see it being usable as evidence. I don't think breaking and entering, trespass, nor burglary charges would really work. Any prosecution would have to be a private one too, as prosecuting police officers for trying to prevent burglaries is surely going to fail a public interest test.
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:


All this is making out it is somehow the householders fault for not locking their door. It is not. It is the burglar who is at fault. He went around trying doors to see if they were unlocked so he could steal stuff. The intent was always burglary, you don't just happen across an unlocked house door then think "I'll just have a look round here to see what I can nick".

It's like saying it's your own fault you got mugged for going out in the street with money in your pocket.


Yeah, gonna have to totally agree with this. Soon as I saw the quote from the article, I thought it was pretty much the worst idea ever, just encouraging people to be more afraid of each other in their own community.
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Locking your doors is pretty simple really and the police entering your house and leaving a balloon (Laughing) is better than being robbed!!

Indeed. When I was turning over gaffs for smack-money, if I saw a balloon in the house I'd just leave quietly.
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