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TomReilly
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Bike nearly done Reply with quote

Well today in work I had to make a new kickstand since my old one fell off when riding, long gone.
Quite proud of myself!

Also can now see the new chain and sprockets and indicators all installed, all that is left now is bleeding my front brake which should hopefully be today.

https://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa430/Rilo_UK/1184882_10201776248746552_624488049_n_zps14c24d4f.jpg
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't see in point in 125's that have pretty much the exact same engine except a different dress. Especially chinese bikes.

The whole point in a supermoto is for it to be a loud arse tearing single cylinder with a huge piston, no?

The ktm 200 exc, rs 125, dt125, verydearo 125 etc I see the point in, like they actually offer something unique and useful performance wise but when me and my mate had 125's (me a ybr and him a gs) I couldn't notice a difference at all except mine costing twice as much and not having a side stand.

Am I missing something here? /rant
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

rhys1005 wrote:
Can't see in point in 125's that have pretty much the exact same engine except a different dress. Especially chinese bikes.

The whole point in a supermoto is for it to be a loud arse tearing single cylinder with a huge piston, no?

The ktm 200 exc, rs 125, dt125, verydearo 125 etc I see the point in, like they actually offer something unique and useful performance wise but when me and my mate had 125's (me a ybr and him a gs) I couldn't notice a difference at all except mine costing twice as much and not having a side stand.

Am I missing something here? /rant


Well let's say you want a DT X but don't want maintenance...You buy a WR.

When in comes to bikes like a YBR and GS where they're only purpose is to get you from A to B then you're right there's no real difference. However if you rely on it to get to work, many people would spend the extra so they can have peace of mind.

There's a purpose for almost every bike, even the R125 has a purpose, to highlight out the posers. Laughing

Anyway, nice to see you're picking up some good skills Tom. You'll find lots of bolts coming loose etc so whenever you have to tighten one, use a dab of loctite.

Oh and don't spend too much on it, save up for a Japanese bike. Wink


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PostPosted: 11:55 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I can't afford a nice bike so I decided to get a cheap one and do it up, I've learned a lot in the process and understand it alot better, surley that will be very useful for when I get a bigger bike in the future, plus I'm 17 and legally not allowed to get a bigger engine.

Plus my bikes Japanese, found out recently by examining the engine Smile
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomReilly wrote:
Well I can't afford a nice bike so I decided to get a cheap one and do it up, I've learned a lot in the process and understand it alot better, surley that will be very useful for when I get a bigger bike in the future, plus I'm 17 and legally not allowed to get a bigger engine.

Plus my bikes Japanese, found out recently by examining the engine Smile


The side stand fell off, I don't how to tell you this...But it's not a Japanese bike. Laughing

And while you can't 'legally' get a bigger bike...You can get a bigger bike...If you know what i mean.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The side stand fell off, I don't how to tell you this...But it's not a Japanese bike. Laughing

And while you can't 'legally' get a bigger bike...You can get a bigger bike...If you know what i mean.
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Considering the previous owner was a total idiot and managed to snap the original one off and weld it back on, I would guess he had no experience in welding, so yeah Wink

I used a Lathe to get it to the exact mm to fit
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't japanese. Thumbs Up

Plus a 2 stroke probably requires less maintenance Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw this and thought it was

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PostPosted: 14:00 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL Laughing

No.
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL Laughing

No.

Also the pipe on the top right doesn't look like its on properly.
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, okay.

Could just give me an answer instead of being funny about it but whatever floats your boat
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a carb, thats like saying my R1 was Italian as it has an italian indicator relay. Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomReilly wrote:
Well I can't afford a nice bike so I decided to get a cheap one and do it up, I've learned a lot in the process and understand it alot better, surley that will be very useful for when I get a bigger bike in the future, plus I'm 17 and legally not allowed to get a bigger engine.



You're doing it the right way dude. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair play. Very Happy

I don't know how the new rules would affect you, but I would ride that round, spending the least amount of money on it as I can, just fuel, oil and stuff, no shiny plastics or other 'bling'. Ride it for a couple of years, get my theory in and then do my test on it and then, hopefully in that time you will have enough saved up for TTR 250! Or whatever bike takes your pick. Should be alright for a couple of years and being a supermoto, pretty ideal for a test, light, turning circle is quite good for dodging those dangerous cones.

Should be pretty reliable if it's built on the same platform as things like the pulse RMR and stuff. My mate had one and couldn't kill it. Just keep on top of oil and should be OK. Thumbs Up

Like someone else has said try not to turn it into a money pit, see it as a tool for getting something else.

Just my thoughts on the matter.
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got to say.....whilst the rest of the bike will snap/rot away/fall off/ stop working....I've seen a few of those engines take serious learner abuse and still be running as well as any good jap 125 4t single! Rmr/super byke (sic) not really road worthy chassis after 2 years use....but still taking green landing abuse after 4 years! Shame they don't spend a few extra £ on better metal/ plastic and paint for the rolling chassis tbh!
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomReilly wrote:
Well I can't afford a nice bike so I decided to get a cheap one and do it up, I've learned a lot in the process and understand it alot better, surley that will be very useful for when I get a bigger bike in the future, plus I'm 17 and legally not allowed to get a bigger engine.

Plus my bikes Japanese, found out recently by examining the engine Smile


I didn't mean you made a poor choice getting a cheap bike, what I meant is why buy a chinese copy of a bike which has all it's negatives and not really any of it's positives when you can get a gs125 or similar for peanuts (mate paid £250 for his) that will be more reliable, usually quicker, lighter, better handling etc. Whenever I see a chinese SM go past rattling like a bag of nails, going balls out at 50mph.. This is what I think. Didn't mean to insult you i'm just generally curious what attracts buyers.


@nathan k
Dt125 isn't unreliable at all, actually the complete opposite. Loved how simple and 'down to earth' my DT was. Had everything I needed.. no more or less.

Unlike my ybr.. Fuel guage but no kill switch or side stand? Don't think it had a switch to turn off the lights either. It's like they missed loads of bits off to make the bike fit within budget but to also be reliable, then people heard it's cheaper and just as reliable as the older bikes which in turn highered the price.

High demand for the bike obviously means no real loss after resale but still annoying that these bikes have a good rep just because they 'make do' and because the 2 strokes etc are more bike then the average joe using his bike for commuting alone. So pointless to get one right?

DT also done 60+ mpg, run for a year with no problems on stupidly cheap chain saw 2 stroke oil, got to 80mph, carried pillions like they were nothing, done fairly well offroad and would wheelie in first with very little effort. Paid £1000 for it and £100 in stupid mods that nothing for resale value then sold for £1000 and a top box a year later, two days after posting advert.

I'm just rambling now but annoys me to see these bikes written off to chav scum when they are very capable and only have a poor rep due to said chavs ragging the bollocks off them and generally abusing them untill the engine blows. I'm going to make a hideous bike, sell it only in pink with love hearts and flowers painted all over it.. A bike a chav would never touch and call it the most reliable bike in the world. Wink

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PostPosted: 09:36 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alice-In-Sunderland wrote:
So are these a Chinese copy of the xr125 then? Did yours have the rubber grommets on the indicator brackets? I tried changing mine but couldn't get em off...


Yeah the copy of the xr,

And yeah it did have those rubber circle grips, they just slotted out of the hole with a flathead, new indicators held in place by bolts
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The carb will be a copy, I've bought Lifan engines that came with "Mikuni" carbs, that you could buy seperately for £20. There's nothing wrong with them, they're just not actual Mikuni's.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm quite impressed that you are only 17 years old but you've done all that mechanical work. When I was 17 I didn't even know how to use a spanner.
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been trained up by Britains number one engineer (think he's nearly 90 now) how to do it all.

Good bloke, talks a bit too much though
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi tom, stop talking shit.



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PostPosted: 14:37 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chatting shit?

What benefit would I get out of that? I'm not trying to brag, his designs are used world wide and he's been in the Engineering industry for longer than you've been alive, times 2

But Hi, stop chatting out your ass and just enjoy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathan k wrote:

Well let's say you want a DT X but don't want maintenance...You buy a WR.

Then you don't get the bike you want, if you mean the silly road 125.

It seems the 125 sector has become more and more about image and very little about ability.
Sadly that's what sells these days - got to have colours to match your trainers, after all!

How much have you spent on it OP?
It's rare that buying and doing up costs less than buying an already working bike and doing maintenance as needed in my experience.
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomReilly wrote:
Chatting shit?

What benefit would I get out of that? I'm not trying to brag, his designs are used world wide and he's been in the Engineering industry for longer than you've been alive, times 2

But Hi, stop chatting out your ass and just enjoy Thumbs Up


No need to get butt hurt, Tom.

What is name of said person?

Also could you ask him if my chingchanchong 125 is German, as it has a carb.


Thanks, Rhys.


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