whose lane is it anyway

[1cyl]

What is happening in this country? has everyone forgotten what signals mean, how they work, and what lane arrows and markings are for!

I checked the road markings, indicated, and when the lights went green proceeded to move, then i check over my shoulder just as he's about to wipe me out, swerve left almost onto the curb, he sounds his horn, i stick up my finger, curse loudly and kain out of the way. "ITS MY F*CKING LANE ASSHOLE".

Moron in a moroon. cavalier

Or was i in the wrong?
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[Claud 14.7 to 1]

Not sure what your situation was, but if you are in a lane and road markers showing one specific way, you should not change between. You should have made your lane choice well before. This is from the highway code btw.

You should stick to that lane and follow that way and turn round at a safe place etc.

I failed a test doing that .



EDIT; Ok just saw your pic. Not sure if it makes any difference because i cant be asked to study the pic. Above is right though...

[WildGoose]

sounds like your average cager mate, gotta be ready for these people

its too difficult trying to teach everyone to drive, believe me ive tried giving lessons on the move, people just get aggressive when you point out their mistakes
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So in other words, he stopped you for being flagrantly in posession of a motorcycle in direct contravention of the Hippies, Darkies and People Whose Face I Don't Like The Look of (Police Powers) Act. 1976

[Ste]

It was his lane from what you have said about it. The right hand lane is the lane for those turning right, so moving it into it at the last minute when there is already a car there is not a good move to continued good health. If there had been a collision there is a high chance the blame would have been put on you, as your were moving into his lane so it's your legal duty to check that it's okay to move there. Even if you were legally in the right in the event of a crash, being 100% legally right does not remove any of the pain or injuries you suffer.

It was his "f*cking lane asshole" from what you have said, and the fact the lights went green you moved away and then moved lanes. The green light would have also applied to his lane so him moving off as well is hardly surprising is it ?

Ste

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[mazza]

Sorry 398cc. I disagree. He's in a lane which is left turn only. Why didn't you give him priority considering he was there first (must have been otherwise you would have been in his place)? Why is it your lane and not his?

Besides, no harm done. Minor skirmish.
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Laugh!? I nearly bought a drink!

[tgabber]

If I understand the diagram correctly it was the cager that switched lanes, as you were both turning right into a one-way two-lane street.

In which case, yes the cager was at fault BUT it's quite easy to see how someone could make that mistake turning into a one-way street. However as you were (presumably) the faster moving vehicle you'd have been better off in the rightmost lane yourself.

Anyway, you spotted the danger in time so no real harm done, just one more incident added to the list that will help make you a better defensive rider.
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[T.C]

You are turning from a single carriageway into a one way street with two lanes, the car is positioned towards the centre white line and you are positioned towards the nearside kerb? How does that make you right and him wrong?

Sorry, but if the positions you marked are accurate, then it was you that was in the wrong not the car driver!
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[tgabber]

[Ste]

Was the lane you were in marked straight on? Or straight on and right turning? Sorry it might be in your picture but my vision is blurry to make it out.

[T.C]

[Zero-G]

There are loads of these types of junctions in Mansfield and they are an absolute nightmare.

From the diagram i would say he was in the wrong, he shouldnt of moved accross into your lane if there are 2 lanes.

[T.C]

[Mr C]

hmmm

seems a bit harsh on both sides

there are two lanes marked for turning right and two lanes to turn into


so I would have thought that the car driver would naturally have gone in to the right lane - but then there are a dozen reasons why he wouldn't too as TC elaborated

Obviously this was a good use of a lifesaver, it's what it's there for and well done for it

as Ste said, at the end of the day it really doesn't matter who was in the right if you are lying under his wheels and tbh I think this would always have been 50/50 anyway - by virtue of him having the inside line and much less distance to travel, he would normally have made it to the crossover point well in front of you anyway, presumably because you were on a bike you had a bit more acceleration and so you arrived there together


congratulations on being awake and not ending up under his wheels, learn from it and stay safe
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187.3bhp = 201mph

[tgabber]

[Mr C]

[T.C]

[fuzz]

But surley as the road marking shows both straight on and right turn in the left hand lane, the car driver should have seen this and realised its a two lane right turn, and so should not have changed lanes?

[Frost]

I would have thought that if the left lane was marked for straight on and right turn thus leaving 2 lanes going right, that you would decide which lane you wanted before turning.

IE left lane for the left lane, right for the right.

If it were simpley a case of turn right and pick your lane then only the right hand lane before the lights would have turned right. the fact that the left lane also turned right means that you must stay in lane.

Thats the way i allways ride/drive situations like that. Ive had 3 different driving instructors teach me to do it like that and ive never see anyone other than a total ideot do different, and that nearly resulted in a crash much like above.

[fuzz]

I concur!

[T.C]

Well, I have had my say so I will leave it to you experts then!
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[Ste]

Just for those who are not aware, T.C. used to be a traffic policeman, and now is working for a legal company who deal mainly with road traffic accidents and so he knows the road laws inside out pretty much, so if he gives a reply on something about road laws you can take it as true.

Just because someone wasn't saying the answer you wanted to hear does not make it incorrect..

[Mr C]

and most importantly, being in the right and in hospital doesn't really help anyone

keep 'em peeled
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187.3bhp = 201mph

[Ste]

Very true. It's like when you get pedestrians who walk out onto a zebra crossing suddenly, giving you almost negative braking distance. Being right does not give you a protective armour coating so being in hospital with the knowledge they shouldn't have hit you doesn't make you be in any less pain, well actually it might annoy you as you could have very easily avoided it happenins.

Watch out, and the best approach on roads to have is to assume that every other vehicle out there is out to get you and being driven by a complete moron. Many are not "out to get you" but if you allow for this then it means you're allowing for it the one time you do meet a car which might as well be out to get you and being driven by a moron.