good value? gaming pc

[bEN_]

Instead of going through the cost of building my own my plan was to just stumble across one locally that i could get for a bargain,

anyway, is this good value or is it one of those pc's where the spec looks impressive but they use slow ram or some other shit?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ULTRA-FAST-Quad-Core-8GB-1TB-Desktop-Gaming-PC-Computer-AMD-HD-/200989984780?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item2ecbefc80c
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[P.addy]

3DMark reckons that GFX and CPU combo has less power than a gaming laptop.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6730713

[Ribenapigeon]

Why bother? £ for £ a console gets you just as much fun without the hassle. I gave up trying to understand all the complexities of motherboard/processor/graphics combos.

[bEN_]

Thats a useful site

While my ps3 is fine, it just doesn't have the games, i like sim racing and the ps3 has nothing like it apart from maybe project cars which hasn't been released yet, and gran turismo is just laughable like F1 2013 is when it comes down to the driving physics and amount of freedom you have.

i think my best plan is to keep looking for good gaming pc's that are on an auction within a 30 miles radius that are collection only, eventually something usually comes up
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[Ribenapigeon]

I only teally play Battlefield so not worth building a pc for that. I used to love Gran Turismo but just lost interest.

[bEN_]

The thing i hate with gran turismo besides the physics is all the license bullshit and unlocking cars and shit, why can't they just fuck all that off, have all cars unlocked and just let people race with what they want, i didn't play GT much but getting into a fair online race was near impossible and i lost interest as i simply couldn't put the time into the game to earn all the cars, with pc games it's all there straight away + the modding community
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[Ribenapigeon]

[bEN_]

depends on the game, with rfactor, if any files have been modified it lets all the other racers know that there is a file mismatch and won't let them race unless the host allows it.

but yeah there's alot to hate about gt, i especially hate the fucking waiting room music they play when you're navigating the menu's, so that always gets disabled
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[bazza]

[Ribenapigeon]

[andym]

aaawww crap.... that's the case I've got

But it's got BLUE lights all over it*... that and 3 120mm blue LED fans and 1 without.... actually the case is quite sturdy compared to my last one









*OK maybe not 'ALL OVER IT', but 3 led fans, blue led power button, several leds on the front... and maybe... just maybe I'll replace the red HD light with a blue one

[serlant]

what are you currently running in your pc ben? if you have one?

here is an interesting read from anandtech

when only using a single grahpics card, a CPU that is 4 generations old will get you within 95% the performance of the highest end CPU.

spend as much money on the gpu as possible, anything else comes second.
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[bEN_]

Thats good info to know, i'll have a read of that site, i'd like to spend around £100 on a graphics card, preferably second hand if i can rely on someone selling a perfectly good card but just "has" to have the latest thing so the current one seems worthless

i think i should put more RAM in to?


the desktop i have

a6455.uk
M2N68-LA (Narra3) motherboard
32bit OS vista ( will obvioously put win7 on )
amd phenom 9500 quad core 2.20ghz
nvidia geforce 8400
3gb ram PC2-6400 MB/sec
500gb hdd

the game i'm looking at playing is Rfactor2 and this is what it says off the site that is recommended.

RECOMMENDED MINIMUMS (will run well, may look better with better hardware):
CPU: 3.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo or 3.0 GHz AMD Athlon II x2 or better
Memory: 4 GB+
Video Card: nVidia 250 GTS or ATI/AMD 4870 or better
Video Memory: 512MB+
Operating System: PC Microsoft Windows Vista 64bit, Windows 7 64bit
Storage: 4 GB+Notes:
1 – 2008 C++ Runtimes SP1 required (included with installed)
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[serlant]

you're not much off the spec, and going by the anand review, that processor is perfectly fine for single gpu gaming, i'd watch ebay for a second hand 670, which can be had for a little over 100 every now and then. very efficient quiet card, which will play anything, including BF4 at max settings at 1080p. would be fine for rfactor2

next would be the ram, chuck 8 gigs in there https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/kingston-memory-8GB-Kit-2x4GB-DDR3-1333MHz-/151170091423?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_MemoryRAM_JN&hash=item233270899f

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kingston-KTH9600B-4G-4GB-PC3-10600-1333MHz-DDR3-ECC-PC-RAM-Brand-New-/161157882712?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_MemoryRAM_JN&hash=item2585c22358

can be had for 20 quid, but if you're really strapped for cash just chuck 1 4gb stick in and take out the 1gb and make do with 6.
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[bEN_]

thanks

will i need a more powerful PSU for this card?

it's saved alot of hassle knowing i don't have to buy so much new stuff / all new setup altogether
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[331X2]

We've played rFactor on some right shit machines, the problems come when you ramp up the number of cars on track. My mate is currently running rFactor 2 on an Alienware laptop with everything wound up and it's all good, not sure how it would fare with a high number of other human racers over the internet though...

[Ballpien]

[bEN_]

From the info page off the HP website, it just says 300w power supply

So anything faster than DDR2 is worthless with my current motherboard? it should be ok though, Rfactor isn't known for having amazing graphics it's all about the actual gameplay with it, but saying that some of the really high quality mods have dropped my fps massively in the past

so, to get

500w PSU
a GPU for around £100, i'm thinking i'll probably end up getting in to other pc games again and will inevitably end up pushing/overclocking the machine eventually, so might aswell get a good card to start with, and upgrade other bits as and when?

also 8gb DDR2
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[andym]

My current system cost about £311 to build over 2 years ago.... and still good enough for HD graphics on medium or high for most games.

Excluding drives as I already had them from my old system:

AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.2 BE, Nvidia GTX 550 ti, 8gb DDR3 1333 mhz (OK so I'm using windows 7 and it says it's only using about 3.5gb atm), a 35 quid gigabyte motherboard, and 750w psu (now upgraded to 850 as it was in a bundle with the above mentioned case)

[bEN_]

this seems alright

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OCZ-MODXSTREAM-PRO-600W-Modular-PC-Power-Supply-PSU-/190979178468?pt=UK_Computing_PowerSupplies_EH&hash=item2c773effe4
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[Ballpien]

[CaNsA]

[dydey90]

[CaNsA]

Sleek and sexy cases for the adult gamer.

https://www.fractal-design.com/