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Snorty
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 12 Dec 2013    Post subject: Random lumpy idle / surging Reply with quote

Set off for work this morning, and the bike was idling very oddly indeed - if I tried to set off with low revs it would just stall, but if I give it some, it's fine. As long as I'm riding about 3k it's fine, but anything before then it starts surging.

I left from work today, and the bike was fine, stable idle, perfect. I then set off to my friend's house, after being stuck in traffic and the temperature going up, the bike became lumpy like earlier again.

Not sure what could be causing this. Any ideas?

1998 SRAD 750, fuel injected.
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PostPosted: 08:03 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:
Does the bike have an Fi diagnosis lead?


It should have a "dealer mode" under the rear panel, short the 2 pins, should display the C code on the dash if there is an error. I used to ride with these 2 pins bridged so when the error did flash up, you'd see it.
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

No errors.

I am very well versed in bridging the connector... Razz

I wish there was an error so I could diagnose it easier! I'm thinking perhaps a coil on its way out or something.

There is a big dirty connector block with a LOT of pins in it behind the left hand fairing. I took it apart and one was broken, they're quite corroded also. I managed to bridge the broken one and bypass the connector, but the block has seen better days. Any way to clean this sort of thing?
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coil should give you an error.

When did you last change the air filter and spark plugs?
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Coil should give you an error.

When did you last change the air filter and spark plugs?


Plugs were done within last 2,000 miles - air filter is a K&N and got looked at a couple of weeks ago.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar issue, but with my xv535 Embarassed turned out to be the reg/rec. But that would probably have a fault code too.
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm. I really hope it's not the reg/rec. This has been a recurring issue with the bike, but has been fixed by a MOSFET.

Perhaps the connections have come loose. I did only use bullet connectors. Worth a look.
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am looking to get a new one, but I don't want to buy one at this time of year - the temptation to ride it will be too great...

What would be a good upgrade from the SRAD? While it has worked I have 100% enjoyed riding it.
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Later model or GSXR1000

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PostPosted: 16:22 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I put all my money on a loose connection/broken wire?

The bike is 98? which is a good long time for any weakness in the harness to develop.

It may means a arse-hole of a job with a meter and a continuity lamp spike. Soldering bolt and leccy tape.

I would start at the blatantly obvious such as where the harness runs over the frame etc. Where it is open to knocks or pinching then go on from there.

Don't over look simple battery connections. They can develop high resistance over time which is why they are part of regular maintenance. But you know that I hope.

Could be a simple engine earth connection.

I'm voting for harness as they are often one of the parts replaced when bikes are overhauled (if your's has been overhauled but the original harness re-used). Not a majorly insurmountable job if you have time and a shop/shed/roll-in-patio doors (when she's not in the house Embarassed ).
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

TPS, could need setting and throttle bodies balancing. Gives a lumpy idle and stalling issues.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the wiring on this bike is probably its worst feature. Doesn't help that it has been left outside by me though.

Getting a garage built now so hopefully it should be safe and dry soon! TPS is fine and throttle bodies are fine I should add.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snorty wrote:
Yeah, the wiring on this bike is probably its worst feature. Doesn't help that it has been left outside by me though.

Getting a garage built now so hopefully it should be safe and dry soon! TPS is fine and throttle bodies are fine I should add.


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PostPosted: 00:15 - 14 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it ran like a sack of shit this morning and on the way home. Tonight it has been smooth as a baby's bum.

Must be electrical.
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