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PostPosted: 12:16 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Classics Of The Future? Reply with quote

So what do you think will be considered a classic bike in 20-odd years time? Why?
By classic, I mean that it's pretty universally considered to be a good bike now, has caught the public (motorcycling) imagination, and is perhaps a true benchmark by which others are measured.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12:47 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

FZ600 Wink

Ducati 749's/999's are starting to look better with age.
They are pretty cheap now so would be a sound investment I reckon, although maintaining them might eat into the investment some what.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honda SP1?
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

trx850, may be some of the ccm big single range,
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think anything that is a common 'first' bike has the potential to be a classic. I suspect the Suzuki Bandit 600 and SV650 could well be classics in future.

the '98 R1 is another potential I think, as well as anything that was vaguely affordable but out of reach for youngsters.
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

On that basis my cbr600Fi is going to be a classic of the future Smile
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

already is heading that way now

aprilia rs250

and hoping that a ( my lol ) nicely garaged kept, polished and dry and ridden only on dry days and about max 1000 miles a year, Rs125 v3

lots of the bigger 2strokes if kept immaculate
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikersupermoto wrote:
already is heading that way now

aprilia rs250

and hoping that a ( my lol ) nicely garaged kept, polished and dry and ridden only on dry days and about max 1000 miles a year, Rs125 v3

lots of the bigger 2strokes if kept immaculate


Any big 2 stroke is stupid money now
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about this bike?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2009-TT-Valentino-Rossi-Yamaha-R1-cross-plane-crank-/330615049261?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4cfa314c2d
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikersupermoto wrote:
already is heading that way now

aprilia rs250

and hoping that a ( my lol ) nicely garaged kept, polished and dry and ridden only on dry days and about max 1000 miles a year, Rs125 v3

lots of the bigger 2strokes if kept immaculate


Ah, the 2 stroke is dead, long live the 2 stroke! Laughing

Surely not ALL 2 strokes will be considered classics? RD250/350 LC, Kwak 750H2, RG500 (?). And I daresay the RS125 Aprillia will be, judging by the way youngsters love them now - does reliability matter? Thinking
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
bikersupermoto wrote:
already is heading that way now

aprilia rs250

and hoping that a ( my lol ) nicely garaged kept, polished and dry and ridden only on dry days and about max 1000 miles a year, Rs125 v3

lots of the bigger 2strokes if kept immaculate


Ah, the 2 stroke is dead, long live the 2 stroke! Laughing

Surely not ALL 2 strokes will be considered classics? RD250/350 LC, Kwak 750H2, RG500 (?). And I daresay the RS125 Aprillia will be, judging by the way youngsters love them now - does reliability matter? Thinking


Show me a cheap 2 stroke
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ chickenstrip - my Honda crm250ar has been totally 100% reliable. never had a rebuild or a strip down and still on same spark plug for 3 years. ( iv got the new plug for it but it still runs sweet as a nut im not touching it! )

the crm actually 2 years ago was not used for 3 months - not started, not even turned over. went to start it the following spring - 2nd kicked she fired right up. brilliant bike.

im actually Knowing that my Rs125 wont be able to do that!. last week it had sat in the garage for 10 days - took 6 goes of the starter motor to get her started! lol.

the only 4 stroke bike i own is my chinese pit bike lol
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:


Show me a cheap 2 stroke



this one

[url]https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aprilia-RS-125-/251405810743?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3a88f43c37


if i had 4k, this would be in my garage now, taken out a couple dry days a year at most then cleaned polished and put away again.

in 10years from now ( like the nice looked after rs250s are today )
this is gonna be lovely to own and ride.[/url]
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of the above bikes are already classics in one way or another.

You need to talk about 2000> only IMO.

I think the 2004 ZX10R and possibly the R1 and first mass centralisation hyped Fireblade. 2004 was a good year for the litre bike!

I'm going to say some rarer stuff will be classics, like the Benelli TNT and the KTM RC8.

I doubt any GSXR1000 from this decade will be classic, as they are nearly always the same and look alike with every new model.

BMW S1000RR is a good call, but there is no room left to step in terms of making a big jump ahead with 1000cc IL4 sports bikes now.

Triumph 675's are likely to be classics, (well a lot more than a TT600 anyway). I'd expect other manufacturers to start building real world triples and twins now and abandoning the expensive to make and Irrelevant four cyl engine.
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Show me a cheap 2 stroke


Just because they cost a lot to buy, doesn't mean they're classic? Some of the shit people are calling classics these days, just so they can bump up the price of an old, restored shed bike, is beyond belief. Rarity might mean it's suitable for a museum, but not necessarily for classic status.
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My FZR600R.
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
- does reliability matter? Thinking


Nope. The bikes that people wanted when they were 17, but couldn't afford, will be the bikes that people want when they are 37, and can afford.

Look at the price of a FS1E. It'll struggle to do 40mph, but a good one will cost £3k.

A good RS125 will be worth money in future for the same reason
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of triumphs possibly.

The Striple and Daytona 675 might be in with a shout.

I would also go for a K4 Gixxer 750.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
bikersupermoto wrote:
already is heading that way now

aprilia rs250

and hoping that a ( my lol ) nicely garaged kept, polished and dry and ridden only on dry days and about max 1000 miles a year, Rs125 v3

lots of the bigger 2strokes if kept immaculate


Ah, the 2 stroke is dead, long live the 2 stroke! Laughing

Surely not ALL 2 strokes will be considered classics? RD250/350 LC, Kwak 750H2, RG500 (?). And I daresay the RS125 Aprillia will be, judging by the way youngsters love them now - does reliability matter? Thinking


It's fast getting to the point where virtually everything 2 stroke is being vaunted as a classic, mostly by ebayers wanting to sell some smoky old bit of junk for good money.

Some I can understand (Fizzy, 350LC, H1 & 2, Water Kettle, T/GT500). Some baffle me. The 500LC, for a start. Nothing to write home about at all, despite the hype. Now sell for ridiculous prices.
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob Fzs wrote:

some cretins seem to think the Brazilian rd350 is worth a premium, how i laughed


If a P/Valve is a classic, it's got to be the first one, with the little pro-am style fairing and belly pan, and standard handle bar as opposed to clip-ons. I gradually had to trade down in size of bike due to lack of funds and finally had to settle for one of these, thinking oh well, there goes the fun. Couldn't have been more wrong! What a hoot - that bike taught me to wheelie; in fact you couldn't NOT wheelie on those! And then added Stephens stage 3 with Stephens/Lomas pipes - yeeeeeeee-har!
Brazillian ones were apparently put together by monkeys. And the plastics seemed very cheap and flimsy. You're right Rob, seen people asking ridiculous money for them, cos the good ones are so few and far between now I s'pose.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

what you gotta remember is that just beacuse YOU dont find anything appealing about a particular bike ( maybe the rd500 or rd350 for example ) it doesnt mean there isnt other people out there that these bikes DO matter to for whatever reason.

i want a Honda mtx125r - why? - because thats the very 1st bike i ever sat on, got taken a ride around at 10pm at night on the back of with only t shirt jeans and trainers, no helmet by my mates older brother.
i loved every fkn minute of that ride and its because of that memory that i am looking for a mint condition mtx125r to keep in my garage and play with occasionaly. - that bike means nothing to most people - kids trash them on the fields, but ill pay good money for the right one.

that same "meaning" for different folks for different bikes applies. doesnt of course make it a classic by any means but it can keep prices high for the nice ones.

a 10 to 20 year or older super-sports bike means and does nothing for me personally, but someone out there will be looking for certain models.

remember one mans junk is another mans treasure and all that ... the prices being paid are testament to that still being true right now.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 21 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ducati 749/999. Hated and slated at first by the press and public alike. Went on to be Ducatis saviour and most successful race bike and its biggest seller. No electronics, just a rider experience. Oh and I've got one so I'm biased Very Happy

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