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Posted: 07:51 - 21 May 2018 Post subject: Rowing machine or Exercise bike |
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I'm looking at getting a piece of exercise equiptment for the spare room however I'm unsure which to go for. I want it for the long run but I will be spending about £200 on whichever I end up with.
Trying to sort out food and exercise to get in better shape whilst working nights. I've used both before but a long time ago. Has anyone got any input or experience on both ____________________ CB125>CG125>GN125>ER5>K100RS>R1100RS>K100RS
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Love my cross trainer. Half an hour most days, plus a few sit-ups and push-ups seems to keep just about everything in decent shape - I can keep up with the youngsters at karate just fine
I was a 38" waist, rapidly heading for 40"... after about 9 months of regular use, I had to go out and buy 36s.... last time I was in 36" trousers, I was at uni, and that's a lot of years ago...
I bought an ebay one to start with and when it started to go wrong (the electronic adjustment on the resistance kept randomly changing) after a year or so, I knew that I was using it enough to spend proper money (£500 in my case) on a replacement.
Cheaper crosstrainers (and especially the ones that can also be sorta used as bikes) have the same problems as cheap exercise bikes - jerky etc. Also, if you're tall, watch out for stride length - much less than 18" and you'll feel like you're mincing, not walking Try before you buy, if possible.
There are days when I'd like a rowing machine for a bit of a change, but I can only fit one massive lump of gym equipment in the bedroom at a time, so turn up the Planet Rock and keep grinding out the steps ____________________ Honda Varadero 125cc => Suzuki Bandit 650 33bhp => 77bhp =>
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If you've got bad lungs and bad knees I'd do neither. Just do some bodyweight work, squats, lunges, planks, a few light weights. Body twists, sit ups if you can manage it.
Exercise equipment is pretty much a waste of time. If you get bored of your current workout you change it, but you can't really change a bike or rower. A rower will give you a better workout I think but neither is as good as a decent bunch of core excercises you can do on a matt. The matt will be cheaper than the rower or bike too. If you don't use it it'll just take up space and gather dust.
If you are serious about getting fitter, then you should get a personal trainer to write you a programme, then stick with it. You need to not neglect your diet as well as actually training. Once I got going, I started to add excercises and train myself which means now I train for about 2-3 hrs 3 times a week. The last time I saw a trainer was back in 2010 before I got married and I still train. As long as you're in a habit you'll do it. I have a yoga mat, a set of dumbells and a bar and thats all I've ever needed.
Another option is to get wrist and ankle weights and wear them continuously. You'll find after three weeks of wearing them all day every day you'll see and feel the difference. You'll be able to move better, walk faster, jump higher etc. Much cheaper than a rower or a bike that will never get used IMO. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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Posted: 19:07 - 21 May 2018 Post subject: |
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I have both, i get more use out of the bike, though i am into cycling anyway.
Mine has magnetic resistance.
If you want overall fitness rower might be better, also easier to do high intensity training in short time on a rower.
p.s as it's Smiler asking, get a rower, you won't fall off of it |
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Bozzy. wrote: | MarJay,
I’ve done the 5x5 before and it was pretty good.
You start with just the bar and add 2.5kg per workout, so there’s minimal chance of injury. KGM meant you need to lift heavy on that workout as obviously squatting 20kg 5 reps for 5 sets won’t work your muscles the same as doing 100kg 5 reps for 5 sets.
I ended up squatting over 100kg 5x5 which, I thought pretty good for someone not much more than 11st.
Plus, psychologically, you’re always going to feel better squatting 100kg for 5 reps than doing 40 reps of the bar!
You are, of course correct though. Muscles do not know heavy, or light, fast or slow; just the effort required to move “Y” weight “X” amount of distance. |
I'm not disagreeing with anything you say, but I am urging you to consider your audience. This kind of flight of fancy is quite a regular thing for Smiler, and he either doesn't bother, doesn't listen or goes very big. I could imagine him damaging himself with too much weight very quickly.
You also have to bear in mind he tells us on a regular basis he has some sort of lung issue, as well as weak knees which can't ride any bike other than a cruiser or scooter. Heavy weights aren't the kind of strain he needs on them.
Weights work, yes, but they aren't for everybody and it is perfectly possible to train using only bodyweight especially for someone who has pre existing conditions and has never trained before. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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Posted: 21:48 - 22 May 2018 Post subject: |
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Lots of dubious information here, some good.
With regards to the lung and heart issue definitely go and see a doctor. See if you can get referred to a GP approved gym instructor as well, even if only for a short time.
What kind of 'dodgy knees' do you have? How old are you, have you ever seriously damaged knees, any history of arthritis etc?
With regards to the exercise which is considered best I'd be wary of doing anything to an extreme degree. Lifting weights is good however can place a large sudden strain on the cardiovascular system which can be problematic compared to a steady state of cardio, even during reasonably hard exertion.
Avoid lifting weights to failure, this isn't necessary, particularly for weight loss/control (I'd advise anyone doubting this to look into soviet era Olympic lifting, and even current sports training techniques). Using machines is perfectly fine and correct depending on the requirements.
With regards to cycling Vs rowing machines a rower will utilise more muscles, meaning you will potentially improve fitness/health and weight loss sooner. It however also will require a lot more technique and skill and take longer to learn, potentially leading to a greater chance of injury compared to a cycle ergometer.
I'd like to qualify all of this by saying I'm a biomechanist who works in the medical industry although also with athletes, please take this as mild guidance only though. And find what exercise you are happiest doing as adherence is the best exercise of all. And first off consult a doctor. ____________________ Pictorgraphicalfantastical |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 2 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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