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Posted: 11:47 - 12 Jan 2014 Post subject: Entry road bike advice |
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Been thinking of getting a road bike for a while and I'll be honest - I still don't really know what I am looking at.
I have done a fair bit of research and the bike I really like is: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2010-Specialized-Allez-Elite-Alu-Road-Racing-Sportive-Bike-54cm-Carbon-Fork-/231134292101?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item35d0ad6885#viTabs_0
They are still about £400 - £500 on Ebay used which is a little ot of my price range at the moment due to a £4000 tax bill
So I have found this: https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_888023_langId_-1_categoryId_165710
Reviews look good apart from an issue with the pedals which can be replaced for cheap. The only thing I noticed was the lack of disc brakes. Now as a total novice cycler would I: A. notice the difference in braking and B. notice the weight difference etc compared to more expensive bikes like the specialized one? Also I'm a bit reluctant to buy bikes from Halfords as their reputation is not exactly great, maybe I could buy it and get it set up somewhere else?
I guess what I really want to know is if I should wait till I have some more pennies and get the specialized bike or go for the Carrera? I will only be doing about 100 miles a week to start with.
Or does anyone else have any suggestions?
EDIT: I do have a freshly paid off credit card which I could use to put the Specialized on.... or any other recommended bike....
Thanks,
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JonB Afraid of Mileage
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This is an absolute bargain at the moment.
https://www.wiggle.co.uk/felt-z95-sora-wiggle-exclusive/
Disc brakes on proper road bikes are not mainstream yet. Shimano have just brought out a groupset with it, but you are looking at bikes £3000+ with disc brakes.
There are bikes that look like road bikes with disc brakes and they are called Cyclocross bikes.
EDIT: That Specialized is a complete rip off by the way. ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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Posted: 19:48 - 12 Jan 2014 Post subject: |
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JonB wrote: | This is an absolute bargain at the moment.
https://www.wiggle.co.uk/felt-z95-sora-wiggle-exclusive/
Disc brakes on proper road bikes are not mainstream yet. Shimano have just brought out a groupset with it, but you are looking at bikes £3000+ with disc brakes.
There are bikes that look like road bikes with disc brakes and they are called Cyclocross bikes.
EDIT: That Specialized is a complete rip off by the way. |
Thanks for the advice about the Specialized - look ok to my uneducated eye.
The Felt bike you linked to looks good and reviews are also good, the only thing putting me off is that it says a mud guard can't be attached (unless I read it wrong) which is not ideal as I would be riding in all types of weather. If you had say £500 quid to spend on a bike is that what you would buy?
What are your opinions of the Carrera? Last question should I be looking to get a bike specifically for a female or does it not really matter?
Thanks and sorry for all the questions.
EDIT: I can get a new Specialized for £440 here: https://www.mcconveycycles.com/store/product/16568/Specialized-Allez-2013-Black-58cm/?gclid=CKu09v6n-bsCFWcUwwodX1EAdA# ____________________ "The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn't understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had" |
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Specialized are OK as bikes - the lower end ones can be likened to the Mondeo; do everything you'd expect without any nasty surprises, but can be a bit bland. The one you linked to on ebay seems a bit expensive for a second hand machine, but I'd ride it. The one at McConvey looks good to me as a starter bike.
My best bike is a Specialized, though one of their top end ones (a full custom build up of an S-Works Roubaix). I cover hundreds of miles a day on that bike, it's lovely. I bought it after good experiences with a Specialized Singlecross - which was one of their cheapest road bikes (no gears) and had a similar geometry. When it came to buying my wife a bike, we got her a Specialized Dolce - which is very similar to the Allez but female specific. That's worth looking at if you can find one in your budget.
Which brings us to your question about that. There are several differences between male and female bikes; female ones may be available in smaller sizes, the frames are designed for longer legs and shorter bodies/arms, they may also have smaller/narrower bars on them. Whether any of that matters to you depends upon how man-like your body proportions are, and to a degree much of that can be adjusted by using different length stems etc.
I know several serious female riders who ride "male" frames, but equally several who find "female" frames more comfortable. Best bit is to get on a bike and give it a go.
Mudguards of some type can normally be fitted to any road bike - but the ones for bikes that have little clearance and no fixing eyes can be flimsy, not work as well, and effectively be thought of as disposable. |
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bamt wrote: | Specialized are OK as bikes - the lower end ones can be likened to the Mondeo; do everything you'd expect without any nasty surprises, but can be a bit bland. The one you linked to on ebay seems a bit expensive for a second hand machine, but I'd ride it. The one at McConvey looks good to me as a starter bike.
My best bike is a Specialized, though one of their top end ones (a full custom build up of an S-Works Roubaix). I cover hundreds of miles a day on that bike, it's lovely. I bought it after good experiences with a Specialized Singlecross - which was one of their cheapest road bikes (no gears) and had a similar geometry. When it came to buying my wife a bike, we got her a Specialized Dolce - which is very similar to the Allez but female specific. That's worth looking at if you can find one in your budget.
So between the specialized and the Felt bike which was linked what would you choose?
Which brings us to your question about that. There are several differences between male and female bikes; female ones may be available in smaller sizes, the frames are designed for longer legs and shorter bodies/arms, they may also have smaller/narrower bars on them. Whether any of that matters to you depends upon how man-like your body proportions are, and to a degree much of that can be adjusted by using different length stems etc.
I know several serious female riders who ride "male" frames, but equally several who find "female" frames more comfortable. Best bit is to get on a bike and give it a go.
Mudguards of some type can normally be fitted to any road bike - but the ones for bikes that have little clearance and no fixing eyes can be flimsy, not work as well, and effectively be thought of as disposable. |
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Posted: 20:27 - 12 Jan 2014 Post subject: Re: Entry road bike advice |
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What sort of riding are you looking to do with it?
General day to day stuff, competitive stuff, jaunts in to the country, something else?
Ignoring the rest, it will depend on the front sprockets, but a 7 speed rear cassete starting with a 14 tooth would put me off.
My highest gear on my 'compact' setup hybrid is 50-11 - the best you'd get on that is 54-14, which is still a chunk slower.
Disc brakes aren't a massive thing if the wheels are in good nick - you've got pretty skinny tyres anyway, so can have traction issues where there's a 'lack of adhesion'.
If/When I am able to get a proper road bike, ideally I'd get a tri-cross disc, which evolved from a cyclocross bike to be more of a do-it-all road bike - so should handle off-road, on road, touring or sportives. Won't be amazing at any, but then nor would I be regardless of the machine. |
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I've just started looking into getting myself a road bike and have read quite a few good things about this https://www.decathlon.co.uk/btwin-triban-300-road-bike-id_8239800.html
Supposedly punches well above its weight for the price, and has led quite a few testers and reviewers to buying one for themselves. ____________________ MBK Nitro 50, Sold. Kawasaki ER-5, Honda ST1100
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What frame size are you? I have a Trek that I need to shift.
Was brand new, totally abandoned it when I bought my CB5. It's been indoors since. Pretty much perfect condition. If you're interested I could drag it out and take a few pictures. Less than 100 miles on it, turns out buying fancy toys did not interest me in exercise.
I think it's 57cm but would have to check.
BCF rates since I just want rid of it really. £450 to buy one new, I could whack a fair amount off of that.
https://classiccycleus.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trek-1.1.jpg
Also have some SPD pedals and similar bits to go with it. |
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Derivative wrote: | What frame size are you? I have a Trek that I need to shift.
Was brand new, totally abandoned it when I bought my CB5. It's been indoors since. Pretty much perfect condition. If you're interested I could drag it out and take a few pictures. Less than 100 miles on it, turns out buying fancy toys did not interest me in exercise.
I think it's 57cm but would have to check.
BCF rates since I just want rid of it really. £450 to buy one new, I could whack a fair amount off of that.
https://classiccycleus.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trek-1.1.jpg
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I'm guessing I would need a 54cm frame being 5'6". Thanks though ____________________ "The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn't understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had" |
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shereen wrote: | Derivative wrote: | What frame size are you? I have a Trek that I need to shift.
Was brand new, totally abandoned it when I bought my CB5. It's been indoors since. Pretty much perfect condition. If you're interested I could drag it out and take a few pictures. Less than 100 miles on it, turns out buying fancy toys did not interest me in exercise.
I think it's 57cm but would have to check.
BCF rates since I just want rid of it really. £450 to buy one new, I could whack a fair amount off of that.
https://classiccycleus.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trek-1.1.jpg
Also have some SPD pedals and similar bits to go with it. |
I'm guessing I would need a 54cm frame being 5'6". Thanks though |
Maybe even a 52cm with a horizontal top tube. I'm 5'9" with a 29.5" inside leg and have a 52cm Ribble winter training bike. I took sizing advice from the cycling enthusiasts at work and the Ribble website. A 54cm frame would also have been just about OK, but I wouldn't have gone any larger.
Ribble Cycles are great VFM for the spec they offer.
https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/pu/road-track-bike/special-edition-bikes/specialedition/1 |
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Sizing varies from one frame manufacturer to another.
I'm 5'9" with a 31" leg and I ride a 54cm Focus and a Medium sized Giant bike. I have occasional issues with reach, but my longer inside leg means a larger frame is more comfortable. On the Giant I fitted a 90mm stem as opposed to the 110mm stem that came with it and now the fit is perfect. ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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