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GeorgeB.
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding the CBT, it doesn't matter if the bike is automatic or not. A lot of people do their CBT at 16 on a ped and then jump straight onto a geared 125 when they turn 17.

Also might be worth noting that the max bhp on a cbt is 14.6, and that on an A2 the original output of the engine can be no greater than 94 bhp before restriction
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeorgeB. wrote:
Regarding the CBT, it doesn't matter if the bike is automatic or not. A lot of people do their CBT at 16 on a ped and then jump straight onto a geared 125 when they turn 17.

Also might be worth noting that the max bhp on a cbt is 14.6, and that on an A2 the original output of the engine can be no greater than 94 bhp before restriction


Touche.

Just simplified it down.

I'm sure that that automatic/manual thing is true I've heard it in numerous places, can you confirm?
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomReilly wrote:
I'm sure that that automatic/manual thing is true I've heard it in numerous places, can you confirm?


I'm 99% certain it only applies to full licenses.
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomReilly wrote:
Touche.

Just simplified it down.

I'm sure that that automatic/manual thing is true I've heard it in numerous places, can you confirm?


I did my CBT on a scooter. There's nothing on the CBT indicating automatic/manual. If you take the practical tests on an automatic (at any level), then you are stuck on automatics. The CBT technically isn't a test. It's a safety briefing that you are required to sit/ride through, although the person running the CBT can decide you haven't sat/ridden through it sufficiently well... Smile
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my CBT on a scooter. There's nothing on the CBT indicating automatic/manual. If you take the practical tests on an automatic (at any level), then you are stuck on automatics. The CBT technically isn't a test. It's a safety briefing that you are required to sit/ride through, although the person running the CBT can decide you haven't sat/ridden through it sufficiently well... Smile[/quote]

I know it's more like training, but technically is a test of how well you can ride,

I did mine and one of the lads failed before he even got on the road.
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You really can't fail a CBT you can only not reach the required standard and require further training..... basically be a mong and need an extra day or attend a shyster school that wants to charge you for extra time.

The auto/manual thing like people have already said is wrong. The certificate has a thing on the bottom that ticks what you sat it on but you can do it on a 50cc ped and perfectly legally ride a manual 125. I did mine on a Ped because the school only had 3 working 125's that day and there were 4 of us.

A2 test bikes are not 47 or under it is between 25 and 35Kw with a max power to weight ratio of 0.2Kw per Kg. A restricted bike cannot be restricted to under double it's existing power. I know you are trying to write a short guide but that's important as a blanket figure of 47 is wrong.

Better to have slightly longer correct information than omissions or errors.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomReilly wrote:
I'm sure that that automatic/manual thing is true I've heard it in numerous places, can you confirm?

You get a DL196, it validates your provisional entitlement to ride anything that's age appropriate, end of.

There's nothing in any statute prohibiting it, so by default you can do it. If you think otherwise, find the law that makes it an offence.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomReilly wrote:
I'm sure that that automatic/manual thing is true I've heard it in numerous places, can you confirm?

If not then i was riding my CBR illegally for over a year. Wink lol
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your post it's not very clear, it will just lead to more questions and has missed out some important points and you were wrong with some of the things you posted.

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If done on automatic bike, you are only allowed to ride automatics until test is passed on manual.

if you do your CBT on an automatic scooter you can ride a geared 125 once you turn 17.

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At age 19, may do A2 test with a engine of at least 395 cc

You may do your A2 test on a motorcycle of at least 395 cc with a minimum power output of 25 kW but not over 35 kW and doesn't exceed the power to weight ratio 0.2kw/kg.


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A license,
If held for 2 years, may do your test, if not minimum age is 24.


If you've held what? You could give people the impression that if they hold their A1 license or car license for 2years they can go on to do their A license, which isn't true.

I appreciate that you've tried help others, but i'd do a bit more research yourself before giving out advice Thumbs Up
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