Biker hits kid on pedestrian crossing

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https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f9a_1387096178

Bike taking a lot of abuse in the comments section. What do you think?

[CaNsA]

[mentalboy]

Poor obs. Although he can't have been going too fast when it happened because he managed to come to halt.
Move on, nothing to see here
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[t121anf]

Tut tut

https://www.gov.uk/using-the-road-159-to-203/pedestrian-crossings-191-to-199

[t121anf]

Tut tut

https://www.gov.uk/using-the-road-159-to-203/pedestrian-crossings-191-to-199

[CaNsA]

[treeno]

Filtering too fast for the conditions, not paying attention otherwise he would have slowed down for the gap. Not much to it really...

[Ste]

Idiot. If he continues running across roads without looking then natural selection will run its course.

[treeno]

[mentalboy]

Clearly the rider failed to observe the highway code, the pedestrian failed to use a pelican crossing correctly, no kittens harmed in the filming of said documentary.
Why do we need to see every twerps 'might have been but didn't' video clip?

So, in summary. Noobs read your highway code, disregard it at your peril. Always wear go-pro and instantly upload your ride.
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[Ste]

[CaNsA]

Behave lads....

If the video wasnt title "biker hits ped" you wouldnt have been expecting that ped to walk out in the road in the 1st place.

[DrSnoosnoo]

Two wrongs there. That kid just bolting out into traffic like a cock and the rider should have been able to stop for any reason, if a car decided to pull a u-ey for example.

With a comment as to a lorry stopped before the crossing, any sensible road user would never stop over a crossing for if the lights change while you're stopped on them, you're a dick and you should always leave crossings clear unless you know you can get over them.
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[treeno]

Yeah obviously he shouldn't have run out like a tard but that's what kids do. If you don't think he was filtering too fast at the time of the incident then you're a danger tbh. It's no use relying on hindsight to put the blame on the kid. If he had been going at the appropriate speed (perhaps 10mph faster than other traffic) he would most likely have been able to stop.

[mentalboy]

I assumed that 'oi prick, fukkin' idiot' referred to the ped and 'dickhead' was the biker remonstrating himself for not taking more care on the zigzags (which he obviously doesn't realise weren't there to give filtering bikes more space)
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[Doovy]

Filtering a tad fast, but nothing I don't do everyday.

Have had pedestrians do that before, I now expect it every time I filter up to lights or see a vehicle suspiciously stationary.

80% of the time, they do pop out.
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[Ste]

Regardless of whose fault it is in the eyes of the law, being legally in the right wouldn't make broken bones or any other injuries heal faster.

So the kid needs to know how to cross a road safely.

[.Bishbash.]

Did he even hit him?
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[Doovy]

[supZ]

Personally..

He was not filtering too fast, perfectly reasonable speed.

His observation was fine, no one has x-ray vision and can see through lorrys.

He was perfectly in the right to be continuing his journey through the GREEN light.

The kid ran out from behind the lorry into moving traffic (other lane) when it wasn't safe for him to do so (the ped. light to cross would have been red)

Hopefully the kid will think twice and actually check its safe to cross the road before darting out.

No fault on the biker whatsoever from my point of view.

You could be over-critical and say 'ooh its a crossing, he should have checked' but how many people would pull up. Stop. Look, then continue in that situation? not many I'd wager.

I try to check junctions, crossings etc.. when filtering past heavy traffic but if you stopped at every possible hazard you might as well get off and walk for all the progress you'd make. You choose a happy medium.
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[treeno]

[supZ]

the problem treeno is going slower wouldn't have changed the outcome.

lets assume that even if he was travelling slower, the kid still darted out when he in the same position.

he wouldn't have been seen any sooner.
he still would have caught him. (probably)
the kid still would have run out straight in front of him.

in fact, if he was going slower the kid could have knocked the guy off his bike and under the wheels of the mpv coming the other way.

im not trying to be difficult or unfeeling, just from my point of view, trying to blame the biker for a mistake the kid has made is something i see far too much these days and its something that needs to stop.

victim blaming - 'girl wears slutty clothes so its her fault she got raped' type thing. NO, its the monster that did it's fault and no one elses. an extreme example but hopefully you see my point.

the biker was riding perfectly within the law, light was green, blah blah.

hence why i don't put any blame on him at all.
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[Matt B]

Highway Code:

191
You MUST NOT park on a crossing or in the area covered by the zig-zag lines. You MUST NOT overtake the moving vehicle nearest the crossing or the vehicle nearest the crossing which has stopped to give way to pedestrians.
Laws ZPPPCRGD regs 18, 20 & 24, RTRA sect 25(5) & TSRGD regs 10, 27 & 28

For pedestrians:

24
When the road is congested, traffic on your side of the road may be forced to stop even though their lights are green. Traffic may still be moving on the other side of the road, so press the button and wait for the signal to cross.

Both at fault?

Idiot pedestrian more to blame IMO.
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[treeno]

OK let us assume that he was going at 10mph like I suggested and was in the same position. He wouldn't see him sooner, but if it's a decent rider with decent brakes he would have been able to stop and avoid the incident completely as he would have more time before he reached the kid. If the kid had run out a fraction of a second later the bike would have hit him full on like you say. His speed did nothing to help him in that way, it was pure luck that it didn't end worse.

That example sucks, you are NEVER going to eliminate silly people stepping out from between cars without looking, it's just not going to happen. Motorists need to expect it, rather than just race around oblivious. I've said throughout the thread the kid is in the wrong, but IMO the biker is more in the wrong. We've already established that he broke the law in the way he was riding...