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rich673
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Commuting Advice Please Reply with quote

I am about to move jobs which will result in a 13 mile commute from NW London to SW London, along the A41, through town and finishing at Battersea. Trying to do this on trains and tubes is definitely going to be a nightmare, so want to get a scooter for the journey.

Really I am looking for the safest option but which also has a good mpg and will work well getting through the traffic as I get into central London.

I'd be really grateful for any guidance and suggestions, I have had a bit of a look around and I like some of the Piaggios, especially the MP3s - but are they actually any good for going through traffic? I've also seen that the Honda SH125 is highly recommended, is that still the case?

Would really appreciate a bit of hand-holding here!

Thanks
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CaNsA
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a used honda CG125.

Scooters are lame.
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's start at the beginning, do you have any biking experience?
If not I'd suggest you either do a 'Get-On' taster session, or the one day Compulsory Basic Training (CBT) course before you start thinking about what bike to go for.

Ignore the post from CaNsA, I commuted in London on a scooter for a year, they're perfectly adequate for for job.
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing wrong with a scooter for pootling around London.

I'd choose the SH over the MP3 - less stuff to go wrong. Any scooter will be okay in traffic, I like the bigger wheels on the SH for less pothole action.

You haven't mentioned a budget or whether you're looking new or second hand?

Take a look around, note what everyone else is riding, get one of those. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're going for the bigger MP3 (400+ iirc) then check the distance between front wheels. This is as iirc they could be classed as a trike and so ridden on car licence. Useful if you didn't want to go down the CBT / bike training route. Needs TFL registering and an annual (cheap) congestion charge for a trike. Scooters would be free.

Scooters in a city are fine. Better weather protection and (normally) loads of under seat storage. So ticks the boxes for commuting.

As said, have a look around. Large wheels helps with potholes and handling.
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above, look around at what others are riding next time your in london. Just make sure you buy a quality machine from a major manufacturer. Anything 125cc and up.
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Northern Monkey
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a used honda CG125.

Scooters are lame.

Bigger wheels will make riding over crap road surfaces, a CG wont lose much value, or have loads of plastic to crack if you drop it.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scooters are mind numbingly dull to ride, and the small wheeled ones aren't too clever over potholes.

But they are, sadly, very practical. Get yourself some muffs and a Tucano Termoscud invalid blanket and you can ride them in miserable weather without too much inconvenience.

Have a look at the Honda Vision 110. Big wheels, combined braking, low cost, great economy.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Monkey wrote:
...or have loads of plastic to crack if you drop it.
That's because there's zero weather protection. Which means you also need to invest in decent bike gear to stay warm and dry. Plus no storage unless you get a rack and top box or fit panniers.

Yet with...
Rogerborg wrote:
...some muffs and a Tucano Termoscud invalid blanket and you can ride them in miserable weather without too much inconvenience...
...you could do the commute virtually in a suit and wax jacket. As seen by myself in Paris - scooter commuters very popular there. This when there was thick snow around.

Horses for courses really.
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have this brand new

https://www.peugeotscooters.co.uk/peugeot-scooters-detail.php/Vox-23/
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW here's a VisorDown review of the MP3 LT 400 and here's a MP3 LT 400 review from the Daily Mail.

Both confirm that it's classed as a trike. Looking around I'm wondering if the LT designation is an indication of the wider front track. This is as come across the 300 LT described as a trike and also the LT model(s) described as "the car licence version".
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
Both confirm that it's classed as a trike. Looking around I'm wondering if the LT designation is an indication of the wider front track. This is as come across the 300 LT described as a trike and also the LT model(s) described as "the car licence version".

The LT models also have a foot brake to meet the regulatory requirements.
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't see the point of these trikes, unless you're disabled, have an extremely poor sense of balance, or are just too lazy and stupid to do the CBT.

They cost a fortune, you've got three tyres to wear out, and have no apparent advantage over a scooter.

From a safety point of view, no one type of bike is more or less prone to idiots pulling out in front of you, or crashing into your back or side.

You might have issues (ie. fines) with parking in motorcycle bays as well.
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barrkel
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Scooters are mind numbingly dull to ride

Most of the fun in scooters is getting through gaps in traffic, filtering etc. On the open road they are indeed dull, but e.g. my commute from E3 to EC1 is not.

But if you want safety, dullness isn't bad at all.
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