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PostPosted: 15:36 - 17 Mar 2013    Post subject: Police looking for Volvo XC90 - 16yr old Jade Clark killed Reply with quote

There are a few posts on deaths of 2 wheeled motorists.

Again, despicable actions of some person have resulted in tragedy.

Police, on the face of it, appear to be putting some muscle behind this.

https://m.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10291276.Funeral_of_teen_killed_in_scooter_crash/

https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/story/2013-03-08/balloons-to-remember-jade-clark/

https://www.dorset.police.uk/default.aspx?page=6687
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 17 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coppers sound like they want an arrest on this one. Thumbs Up

What'll the culprit get? 18 weeks suspended? Not prosecuted because the tyres were mis-matched? I'd settle for 5 minutes alone with her family.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 17 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably because she's a young lass and not a 50 year old bloke, that's when they lose interest.

It's a sad story and an example of why peds are dangerous. Legally she should not have been doing 30mph on that road so thats 30 on a 70 road. Obviously the bigger issue is the car driver, total coward.
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 17 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't really matter what the facts are, she got hit by a driver and they didn't stop which is despicable. I can't think of the mentality of someone who doesn't stop to help that few minutes may save the life...
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 17 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeddy11 wrote:
Doesn't really matter what the facts are, she got hit by a driver and they didn't stop which is despicable. I can't think of the mentality of someone who doesn't stop to help that few minutes may save the life...


It is, but I do wonder if the fear of what you have done is so overwhelming for some people they just run.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to justify what the driver did, more understand why he did it.
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 17 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to wonder what it's like for them, to turn on the news and hear of this death and panic like mad. Hopefully it eats the person up every day.

If it goes the way of recent cases the driver will get a 1 year ban and a £300 fine if they are caught.
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 18 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live within a stones throw of where this happened, and am a regular user of the road.

Where she was hit is a 200-300m section of the A road that links smaller roads, so she was likely using it for this purpose. Not sure there is a better way of doing it either. It's a problem area in general to be honest, with it being 4 lanes wide with multiple exits and turn offs all happening at once, causing lots of lane changing and near misses.
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PostPosted: 07:54 - 18 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Troy_ wrote:
I live within a stones throw of where this happened, and am a regular user of the road.

Where she was hit is a 200-300m section of the A road that links smaller roads, so she was likely using it for this purpose. Not sure there is a better way of doing it either. It's a problem area in general to be honest, with it being 4 lanes wide with multiple exits and turn offs all happening at once, causing lots of lane changing and near misses.


I was in the traffic that ensued.

Part of the problem is that at 16 she would have been on a gutless 'ped on a piece of road with incredibly dangerous junctions. I'm surprised it hasn't happened before. There should be motorway-like restrictions there with an alternative route for non-motorway traffic.

This still doesn't excuse the bastard leaving the scene and remaining in hiding.
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 18 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to get too Hetzer, but I'd wonder if the culprit has already been found and punished with a particularly stern funny handshake,
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 18 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they find him the fact he left the scene won't even be considered, he'll tell them he had mismatched tyres fitted and that he was using the loud speaker on his phone so its ok and he didn't see the scooter so didn't realise he hit it and then he'll sue the girls grieving family for repair costs on his car.
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 18 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irn-Bru wrote:
If they find him the fact he left the scene won't even be considered, he'll tell them he had mismatched tyres fitted and that he was using the loud speaker on his phone so its ok and he didn't see the scooter so didn't realise he hit it and then he'll sue the girls grieving family for repair costs on his car.


Incorrect. He'll say the sun was in his eyes and he was momentarily blinded.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 18 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irn-Bru wrote:
If they find him the fact he


Did I miss this in the report where they've said it was a male driving? Didn't think they had that much detail.


Got a feeling that the reason they'll not find the car by contacting all owners of an XC90 is that it's likely the car was 'flying under the radar'. Shock of accident only lasts for a short while before the person gets nervous and turns themselves in usually, so I'm guessing that by continuing to avoid facing up to it might well be due to lots of other relatively serious underlying offences.
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 18 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

cimbian wrote:


Part of the problem is that at 16 she would have been on a gutless 'ped on a piece of road with incredibly dangerous junctions. I'm surprised it hasn't happened before. There should be motorway-like restrictions there with an alternative route for non-motorway traffic.


Completely agree. In fact I don't think any 50cc machine should be allowed on national speed limit dual carriageways.
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 18 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Double-agree. There's a new NSL bypass that went in near me that has motorway restrictions on it.

Doesn't stop the occasional suicidal pedalist riding up it though.
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PostPosted: 08:04 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

odds on a female alcoholic taking the kids out and ran up the arse end of the scooter and pissed off...... ? what ever its all speculation damned tragedy all the same... but how synical we all are at the lack of or perceived lack of justice in these cases.....is it not time judges and magistrates retired at 65
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

radicalrabit wrote:
odds on a female alcoholic taking the kids out and ran up the arse end of the scooter and pissed off...... ? what ever its all speculation damned tragedy all the same... but how synical we all are at the lack of or perceived lack of justice in these cases.....is it not time judges and magistrates retired at 65



Its not that, statutory sentences should be introduced, rather than sentencing guidelines.

You do this, X happens. They did this with the knife and gun laws.

Therefore any bribes paid to the judges or if they feel sorry for the crook or if they are off their rockers is irrelevant. The sentence is the same.
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem with statutory sentences is that if bleeding heart beaks are being conned into giving token sentences, then the threat of having to give actual custody is likely to result in more criminals simply being found not guilty.

Deterrence only works if you know about the harsh penalty, and it's in your mind at the time when you might commit the offence. How many people does that describe?
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

fatpies wrote:
...statutory sentences should be introduced, rather than sentencing guidelines...

...and where statutory sentences exist that method doesn't work either.

Murder has a statutory life sentence.
Then the horse trading by the legal profession starts.
That's why you have such disparity in the time before parole can be applied for.

So apparently some lives have more value than others Crying or Very sad Thinking Tut Tut
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:

Murder has a statutory life sentence.


Oft misunderstood.

It is still a life sentence but not life custodial sentence. Any breaking of the law when out can render a lifer back in prison without notice.
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

cimbian wrote:
map wrote:

Murder has a statutory life sentence.
Oft misunderstood.
It is still a life sentence but not life custodial sentence. Any breaking of the law when out can render a lifer back in prison without notice.

A lot of people would see that one murderer is out of prison way before another murderer.

Being out of prison is free.

Not breaking the law is (should) be the normal/default action for an individual.

Therefore one is free before the other for doing the same crime.

Therefore the person(s) they killed have less value than the live(s) taken by the person still in prison.

...just a logical train of thought.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 22 Mar 2013    Post subject: Update Reply with quote

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/10307552.JADE_CLARK_DEATH__Man_arrested_and_Volvo_XC90_seized_after_fatal_crash/
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 22 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope they throw the book at the fucking coward Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 22 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disgusting.

Where are the police haters when you need them?
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 22 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hang fire on this one. It could just be a chap who told them to get fucked when they asked him to account for his whereabouts, and a "negative inference" is being drawn.

I do hope that the actual culprit has the decency to end their pitiful, cowardly existence when they're caught.
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PostPosted: 02:56 - 24 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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