Safety conscious centre-stands

[Baffler186]

Just read on another forum that another guy has had his fingers mangled whilst cleaning a chain with the back wheel running (in 2nd gear I think). My CBF125 didn't allow this and would cut out if you tried selecting a gear whilst either side or centre stand were engaged.

So, I tested this out on my current bike and indeed it has no centre-stand cut-off.

My query is - do most bikes have a safety cut-off, or is it dependant on the age/manufacturer, or even the model?

And yes, I know one could use a paddock stand to overcome this if you wanted, but presumably it is a safety feature and not for any other reason?
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[SQL]

Its natural selection

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[Northern Monkey]

Same for me, engine cuts out when the side stand is down but not when the centre stand is down.

I guess this is because it's possibe to ride off with the side stand down, but not when the centre stand down.

[Tungtvann]

[Baffler186]

[Tamsin]

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[kramdra]

Side stands need a cut out for safety - it is to prevent riding off with the stand down, where it will catch the ground when turning left and throw you on your arse. It has nothing to do with maintenance or mashed fingers from utter stupidity. I do not know of any bikes with a centrestand cut out and if I owned one it would be disabled.


Plus the best way to clean rear sprocket and chain is to spin the wheel in reverse (by hand) and then you can get your fingers as close as you want quite safely. Use a cloth and paraffin.

I run my bikes in 6th gear, 120mph+ or so on the centrestand after oiling, to fling off excess.. the spray goes about 3 meters

[i.p.phrealy]

[c_dug]

About as far into the nearest wall I'd imagine
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[Baffler186]

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[Pete.]

If a bike is on level ground it's much more stable on the centre stand. Toppling directly sideways isn't the most common way of crashing off the stand, rolling forwards is. You can very easily roll a bike off the sidestand but not easily at all off the centrestand.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

But if it *is* a matter of trying to push the bike over sideways then obviously it's MUCH easier if it's on the centre stand.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Suspect it depends on the design of the bike. Early Aprilia AF1 left the bike so close to upright that almost any stand would be more stable.

All the best

Keith
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[SQL]

the sidestand on the Derbi Gpr is the opposite i could probably get my kneedown while on the stand

[gavbriggs]

The centre stand invariably takes the rear wheel off the ground, starting and running the machine at worst will only spin the rear wheel in the air and thus not allow the bike to propel itself forward. Unless your an idiot and you put the bike in gear and drive it off the centre stand as some plonkers did in their teens!

The side stand has both wheels on the ground, thus allowing the machine to propel itself off the stand should an attempt to start it be made whilst in gear(most machines now have a clutch switch also) or should it be accidentally knocked into gear.

The likelihood of damage or injury from a running machine is therefore greater with the use of the side stand rather than the centre stand. To obtain a dangerous occurrence either method would require the use of at least one fuckwit.

There is also the danger that side stand could cause death if cornering at speed whereas a centre stand by design would tend to brush over obstacles although some do seem very close to the ground when the machine is leaning in corners!

[Tungtvann]

Every bike is different. But 100%, my FZ6 is more stable on its centre stand than it is on its side stand. I even made a video demonstrating the fact, but rewatching it makes me sound like a bit of a dick, so you'll just have to take my word for it.