Using non standard bike security chains:e.g. 26mm galvanise

[Crumpets]

Hi All,
I'm just about to buy my first big bike (gs 800 adventure) and as i have the pleasure of living in central london my insurance is through the roof so i've decided to go for 3rd party. The bike will be stored in a large underground car park below my flat block which has cctv and a security gate. However, i was informed a bike was stolen about a year ago when someone "left" a door open.

As i have no where really to anchor the bike i've decided to wrap a chain around a concrete pillar thats about 40cm by 40cm. Based on this i need about 2m (at least) of something you would have to take some real time to get through. As i can't really find a bike chain that seems to be of an appropriate length and thickness i was wondering if i could use something like this: https://www.gsproducts.co.uk/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=22_179&products_id=579

has anyone ever used chain like this and is it a good option?


Thanks for all the information i just dont want some ba***rd taking my bike

[P.addy]

[Crumpets]

Thanks what i was hoping i figured as im not moving it i'd get the biggest one i could find. I dont think mechanical cutters would get near it?

[P.addy]

I just see 26mm and expect it to be hard.

It will deter the majority I would say. Sleeve it up and use it, I might even buy a metre or 2.

[Crumpets]

Where would i go about getting a sleeve for it?

[woo]

so am i right in understanding that this chain is as good as almax and protector chains?

cos if yes this is way much cheaper!
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[Crumpets]

I'm going to call the company today.
But i think with almax etc you pay for the fact its strong and lighter. I don't mind about not being able to move it at (30kg) but i think that being thicker almost 30mm mechanical cutters will really struggle and i think that angle grinders will have a tough job.

I really don't know if it is any better but i'm going to speak to them and i will revert back with any info i find.

I think as a static deterrent and security device i'd be more concerned about trying to get through a chain that looks like it came off a ship then a normal one

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[DrDonnyBrago]

If there are any industrial units nearby with heavy lifting equipment, they'll probably have loads of perfect nick load chain worth nothing more than scrap value. Ask for grade 80 load chain, very hard and you can get it as thick as you want.

Even brand new it costs about £20/m for 16 mm on gaybay.

Someone on here got a thick bit cut to length with a cover for £10 by going around the back of an industrial unit.

[Crumpets]

[P.addy]

If they want it, they'll have it.

I'd rather spend £80 on that chain than near 200 for an almax.

I wouldn't bet on it being the same strength wise as an almax but it will deter most fuckers. It is an inch thick

[Motorhate]

A lot depends on the padlock too. You'd need to fork out on a decent locking system otherwise the chain will be useless. Any recommendations for padlocks?

Also worth bearing in mind is that these chains, as great as they are, really aren't portable so you'd struggle to carry one with you I'd imagine.
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[Robby]

One protip here.

Put the big chain around the lamppost with it's own padlock. Use a decent portable chain to lock your bike to the big chain. That way you don't have to cock around trying to thread ultra thick, heavy chain through your wheels. It looks heavy enough that it would damage a valve stem if you put it though the wrong part of your wheel.

If the thieves want it, they will have it. Once you're at the level of a professional outfit with a van, there's nothing to stop them having a cutting torch in the van which will get through anything. Make sure you're parked in view of the CCTV. The power of facebook has been surprisingly useful recently in sharing pictures of bike and car thieves.

[Motorhate]

[woo]

as for padlock recommendations i would say get the Abloy PL362!

the squire ss65c which is a monster of a padlock has been picked on youtube and thats enough to put me off, plus a guy on here had his garage broken into and his squire ss65c on his almax picked.
the thread is somewhere on this forum cba to search for it as am at work.

the abloy PL342 has been cut i have posted the link in one of my past threads but i have not seen the abloy PL362 defeated yet!

infact almax and protector should be try market the abloy pl362 to go with their chains not just the squire ss65c
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[GrantT]

[woo]

o dear so what paddlock can you use for a chain this humongus
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[Crumpets]

[woo]

if you have designated parking space you fill a large plastic container with concreate and put a think soild metal tube in it to make a ground anchor
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[Rogerborg]

Hang on, the F800GS Adventure spec didn't come out until last summer, and is going to run you north of £8.5K. Some underwriters won't even offer TPO on that value of vehicle.

I'm a fan of TPO and taking the risk, but even on my humble £5K F650GS I went fully comp because while I can afford to throw it down the road and buy another, I'd rather not.

At 22, on an A2 license, in That London, I'd be looking at getting a bike that's cheaper to buy, insure, drop, and lose. Savings would go into a 19mm Almax chain of the required length, which I'd expect will deter the majority of scrotes.

[UPDATE]
Oh, I've just seen that you're looking at a 2009 800GS, which won't be in the Adventure spec. Even that's going to cost enough that TPO would be a big gamble.
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[stinkwheel]

I always considered using some huge fuck-off chain, secured with a huge fuck-off shackle with a high quality padlock through the end of the shackle pin.
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