Honda CRF250M

[MC]

Saw one of these in the Honda dealer today, been lusting over images for a while, but seeing one in person wasn't a disappointment
https://blog.motorcycle.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/2013-honda-msx125-forza-300-crf-250m-0.jpg
The price tag's a little disappointing tho. Why are they over 4k (or am I missing something regarding how motorcycles are priced)?

As people were saying in another thread about this bike, it needs a bigger engine. Still in a few years when there are used ones about, I might be tempted.
____________________
Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
Honda XR-125L '04

[P.]

DRZ400 for less.

[Wozza]

You would want to do some intake/exhaust/fuel mods but that pushes the price up further. Could always get a cheap second hand L and stick some road tyres on it. Wouldn't quite be the same without 17" wheels though.

[Irn-Bru]

They are too underpowered, DRZ would be a much better choice as Paddy says.
____________________
KTM 990 SMT & Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM

[G]

I don't get the fascination with the 250s - the DRZ is lacklustre as it is and these barely weigh less, but will have even less go.

Go get a GPZ500S and a 2 stroke 250mx bike with road wheels for proper fun mixed with a useful daily bike .

[MC]

They also had a (used) FMX 650, which looks nice if a bit rare/expensive.
____________________
Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
Honda XR-125L '04

[G]

Very slow, heavy and boring for a 650 single. Engine used in a good few things, however.

If £900 or under for a bit of a hack, maybe.

[MC]

Looking on eBay they tend to go for around £1500 or even higher. Are there any supermoto's that are around the grand mark (maybe a bit more), not too powerful , and relatively cheap to insure or am I dreaming?
____________________
Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
Honda XR-125L '04

[G]

It won't be a massively super moto - Husaberg's can get down to that level but probably not with SM wheels. However, we're back to the proverbial hand grenade for an engine - light weight and lots of power, but often only single use!

[Irn-Bru]

I think someone on here recently got a CCM for that sort of money, might have been an R30 which I think is the DRZ engine one.
____________________
KTM 990 SMT & Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM

[MC]

Not really been looking at KTM Duke's (as they seem quite expensive) but saw this on eBay. Seems cheap for what it's
____________________
Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
Honda XR-125L '04

[G]

I paid £2k for a CCM 404e with both sets of wheels 6 years ago.

[MC]

Bump... are these not selling then? Seen a few places discounting them to 3.5k. Makes it a little more appealing.

Just a little
____________________
Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
Honda XR-125L '04

[thx1138]

I have a 250L with off road tyres, was tempted to buy an M as well.

[stevo as b4]

I'd prefer a Honda FMX650 for street use TBH.

So what are the specs on these new Honda 250 supermoto's? Is it a CRF250 engine? And how would it compare to the Yamaha WR250X that I really like, except for the comedy price tag!

[1cyl]

Looks good but i'd still want the 450.

Work mate pilots an 02 plate, which he's rebuilt with a high comp piston, keeps up with my 650 no problem at all, easily got to have bhp in the late 50's.
https://cdn.bikechatforums.com/files/jb_192.jpg
____________________
Chase my Witch up, Catch my Snitch up.
The SMC | The Pit | Stable

[MC]

[G]

Remeber there's a CRF250 competition engine and road engine.
(I presume they're different, the power output certainly is).
This is the road engine.

[MC]

[G]

It should be setup for more low down and midrange power at the expense of peak power - while on the road you can use the clutch and gears to make up for a lack of low down power, in muddy conditions it is useful.

[bikersupermot...]

nice frame - but id personally be wacking in the engine from the cr250. that would wake up the otherwise nice frame and plastics.
____________________
facebook / All tents Camping Group

bike camping / touring

[stevo as b4]

If it's a CRF engine, with all the high strength light weight internals, then i guess it's just radically de-tuned from the competition motor?

There should be potential for another 10bhp to be gained over std if you know what they have done to re-tune it and can fit the CRF spec bits like Cam's High compression piston, and bigger valves etc.

CR250 engine swap would be a massive fail on a new street biased SM i would say!

[G]

Note from above - it's apparantly a CBR250 engine, and not the 'good' one, as you might expect.
From a bike with worse specs than a 30 year old CB250RS made by the same company.
Progress - woo!

[stevo as b4]

So next year it will be a CRF300X then with 30bhp?

[Deckx]