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nerald
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: A tour of Ireland Reply with quote

I have got 5 days free in May and am toying with the idea of a trip across the water to Ireland. Both Cairnryan and Liverpool are 3 hours away from me so I can use either. Any thoughts on some good roads to ride given the limited time I have. Did the Giants Causeway and Ballymoney last year on a day ticket from Stranraer and know that the coast road is a pain. Will be camping so any recommendations would help.
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 28 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have absolutely no idea about anything to do with camping and traveling in the Emerald Isle.

I`m fairly sure that if you say " oh diddly diddly diddly, top o` der marning to ya" to anyone you meet you will get along just fine Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 16 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lack of responses here makes it seem like there is nothing worth seeing in Ireland.

Sad
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barrkel
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 16 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
The lack of responses here makes it seem like there is nothing worth seeing in Ireland.

Sad

I toured Ireland in autumn 2012. I went from Dublin to Galway to visit my parents, across the country via back roads, crossing the Shannon at Shannonbridge rather than Athlone, then went north along the coast as far as the top of Donegal, then back down again, anti-clockwise all the way around the coast until I got back to Dublin and took the return ferry to Wales.

Some of the scenery on the west coast is pretty excellent, but the weather is often damp. The roads were wet 4 days out of 5, and even when they were dry, they were still wet in shaded corners.

Ireland's hills and mountains are all around the rim, specially on the west and south coasts, while the centre is mostly flat bog that tends towards straighter, less interesting roads.

Road quality is mixed. There's been a lot of investment in the past 20 years, and there are now quite a few good roads, but they can be a bit odd. There was one I remember that was wide enough to be four lanes (2 each way), but it only had one lane each way, and cars drove on it in a randomly staggered fashion. Some close to the centre line, some over by the edge, some wandering from side to side depending on the line the road was taking.

Roads used to have cats eyes, but many of the smaller roads have been resurfaced without them. Makes riding them at night quite a bit dodgier.

Speed limits are bizarre. They're rules-based rather than reality-based. You'll see tiny little dead-end side roads leading to the beach with an 80kph sign, and 15 mile stretches of coastal road with residential houses with a 50kph limit - but everybody, including police, doing 90kph. Basically, the density of home driveways leading onto the road governs what speed limits it has, but the road conditions govern what speed people drive at. Encourages contempt of the law, essentially.

Another thing. Central line painting follows American philosophy rather than UK philosophy. That is, unless a car with wheezy acceleration can overtake safely, the central line will probably be solid. The UK philosophy is more like, the default is broken, and if accidents start occurring, then the line becomes solid. This leads to more contempt of the law - many bikers will ignore the solid line because it's not realistic when considering high-performance vehicles.

Villages are a bit sameish to my Irish eyes. Pubs typically outnumber shops 3:1, and all have their distinct crowds. Chain pubs were almost unknown when I was young, but I expect they've made some inroads in dense urban areas. I've never been one for pubs or drinking though.

There's plenty of old ruins, whether Anglo castles / grand houses in various states of disrepair, crumbling abbeys, famine roads and walls leading to nowhere in the hills of the West.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 16 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the roads will wreck your bike unless it is a offroad derived/styled machine.

Add at least 50% to your estimated journey times for covering a similar distance in Britain.

Don't ask anyone for directions, the answer will be similtaneously unhelpful and confusing and probably wrong (Genuinely had someone answer "Well. Sure. I wouldn't start from here." last time I was in Eire).

It is still considered the height of wit to spin roadsigns around to point in the wrong direction.

Do not kiss the blarney stone until you've found out what the locals do to it at night (Hint: It RHYMES with "kiss").
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PostPosted: 01:49 - 17 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Some of the roads will wreck your bike unless it is a offroad derived/styled machine.

FWIW, I've taken both my scooter and my old ER6f. Take this with a grain of salt. Some roads are higher quality than UK roads, the motorways are very new - and tolled, including for motorcycles, and UK debit / credit cards are not accepted, or weren't when I tried. I also had quite a bit of fun taking bog roads with a lot of visibility at high speeds - bumpy, but part of the charm.

On the other hand, I high-sided my scooter pulling out of a junction, did very little to prompt it - diesel and road surface worn down to the tar did most of the work.

Ireland has over 3 times more road miles, per capita, than the UK. Naturally, investment can't keep up.
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 17 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was over in Belfast in May 2011, we stayed at Dundonald camping park in Belfast. We had a tent & 2 bikes, never had any problems on the site, although it is gated with a security guard. There is an ice rink & a crazy golf couse there for when you are not out on the bike. We were on a Deauville meet and one day we went on the coast road from Belfast, through Larne right round to Portrush and back to Belfast. We stopped at Joey Dunlop's pub & his memorial and rode the North West 200. Another day we were there we went around Belfast, saw the murals, went to the dock where the Titanic was (before the exhibition bit was finished) went to see the Harland & Wolf cranes, went to Stormont and rode across Stranford Lough and stopped for lunch in Newcastle then rode up to Newry and back to Belfast through Hillsborough. There are a lot of good roads to ride in Northern Ireland and we would like to go back one day and see more of Northern Ireland.
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 18 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will be heading over to Ireland shortly on the bike for the first time, but I have been over many times in the car.

A while ago I asked my cousin to come over with me, he went to the travel agent and she advised him not to take the car that the roads are so rough the axels break and it takes 4 to 6 hours to get from Dublin to Galway.

This rubbish just proves how out of touch people are with Ireland.
The main roads are now better than over here, after years of actual investment (unlike here, where the hell our road tax goes I have no idea). Depending on how lawful you want to be it will take approx.. 2 hours to get from Dublin to Galway (a friend of mine said he did it in 1.5 hours, and they way he drives I wouldn't be surprised).
This said the standard of driving over in Ireland still has a lot to answer for. It’s not as bad as the Italians or Spanish but on a bike you really will have to think for every other bugger on the road. Oh and if you do venture to Galway, for god’s sake watch the round abouts, they really do not have glue what they are doing on them (I’ve seen people going the wrong way on them because they wanted to turn right).
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 18 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

insomniac wrote:
Oh and if you do venture to Galway, for god’s sake watch the round abouts, they really do not have glue what they are doing on them (I’ve seen people going the wrong way on them because they wanted to turn right).

I've seen more people (2) go the wrong way around a roundabout in 6 years in London than 18 years in Galway (0); it's my home town Smile
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 19 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

barrkel wrote:
insomniac wrote:
Oh and if you do venture to Galway, for god’s sake watch the round abouts, they really do not have glue what they are doing on them (I’ve seen people going the wrong way on them because they wanted to turn right).

I've seen more people (2) go the wrong way around a roundabout in 6 years in London than 18 years in Galway (0); it's my home town Smile

You've been lucky, I have a sister in Loughrea and another in Oranmore. Both have had a few near misses with people on the round abouts in Galway. I do think though that most of the time it was the older generation that were getting things a little wrong.
This said I'm not trying to put anyone off going, I love it there and am going on the bike myself in May, I just want people to be aware that round abouts in Galway seem to be a problem with a few of the locals
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nerald
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 19 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info. Road surfaces shouldn't be a problem, I will be using the Caponord (big old magic carpet). We will probably look at riding around the coast I presume it's pretty rugged coastline based on what I saw of Northern Ireland? So hopefully get to see something interesting.
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I toured Ireland in 2012 on my R65 and loved it, but seriously heed the comments about the road surfaces.

What I found was you can be riding along at a good pace on a nicely surfaced road and you come over the brow of a hill and the surface justs changes in front of you to something resembling a ploughed field. On a number of occasions I ended up standing on the pegs while the bike crashed about underneath me.

That said I do like taking the scenic route so that might have had something to do with it!!

Cheers Tim.
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