Court Location for Sorn Hearing

[Bofh5]

Hi all
My son has been getting texts from intercredit international on behalf of the dvla for failing to declare his bike as sorn.
He sent the sorn form off back in november but dvla say they never received it.
He sent them the standard letter quoting the interpretations act but the texts continued.
"Mr xxxx.
You must call regarding your unpaid fine on 02084476799 to avoid charges."

Today he received this one.
"Your case is being scheduled through the Northampton Country Court. Contact Jill Watson immediately.!

The thing is he lives in Reading and doesn't have transport so getting to Northampton will be a right pain.

Is there anyway of getting the case heard in the Reading court ?

Thanks
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[P.]

Wait for court papers. Have no further correspondence to the "debt collectors"

When papers arrive, inform them you have no transport and your local magistrates is "x" address

Adjust attached to suit SORN rather than V5.

Let win ensue.

[Bofh5]

Thanks Paddy
Poor sod was getting really stressed.
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[chris-red]

For those that CBA to read Paddy's letter.


Dear DVLA,

You are wrong, suck my Plums.

Paddy
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[Bofh5]

Superb

I'll get him to wear a t-shirt with paddy 6 dvla 0 on it
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[P.]

[Joncrete Cungle]

Northampton is not what I would call a county court, more like a bulk mailing out of court papers place. Once you declare your intention to defend your case should be switched to your local county court.

EVERY time you POST something to the DVLA send it FIRST CLASS FROM A POST OFFICE and ask for the FREE PROOF OF POSTAGE!

If you then get an invitation to pay Crapita plc a bribe, write to them a curt letter stating you have complied with the law by returning the SORN declaration first class in the post. Quote them S7 Interpretations act 1978, they know it well. Show the beak your free proof of first class postage, quote S7 Int act 1978 to the beak and WIN!

The text to contact Jill Watson and mentioning Northampton sounds like the mobile phone version of sending out in the post a set of CC papers that have been filled in and look official. Except for the fact that the papers have been nowhere near a court and have no court stamp or Money Claim Online log in details on them, an underhand last min trick to try and pressurise non payers in to coughing up. I wouldn't worry 'til real stamped court papers hit the doormat, if they ever do.

[2 litre]

How did they get his number ? has he gave them it ? surely they cant just send a text out telling someone they're going to court ?

[Joncrete Cungle]

[2 litre]

[Bofh5]

i just asked him and he didn't give them his number so dvla must have given it to them.

He tried ringing them and stating he had fulfilled his legal obligation under the interpretation act etc.
As you can guess they were less than helpful and just kept demanding £80 and they will make it go away.

When he asked them about the court location the low life said tough you have no choice.

Nice chaps at intercourse international
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[Joncrete Cungle]

IF any court action is taken against him as an individual and not a business / company. It will be changed to his local county court.

https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/northampton-bulk-centre/ccbc/frequently-asked-questions

[P.]

Cease all communication now.

Nothing, written, spoken... nada.

Await court papers.

[map]

Just to be aware that even if you tell intercredit international you obeyed with the law they'll likely disagree with you.

See this thread (click-me link) in moneysavingexpert.com for example.

Appears they have been at this for years.

On a tangent isn't there a law preventing intimidation by text messages? If your lad feels intimidated should that not be reported to the telecoms people and/or the police for action?

Best of luck. Advice given above is okay and ties in with that in the moneysavingsexpert.com thread above.

HTH
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[Bofh5]

He has no idea how they got his mobile.
Other than the insurance company he hasn't given it out.

For now i've told him to follow what Paddy said.

The texts are quite intimidating which is the idea. They want to hound people constantly so they break and pay up.

Not this time
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[stinkwheel]

If it's a summons, it comes by post and says it's a summons.

It also says when and where you are summonsed to appear.

It also comes with documentation to plead guilty by post or have the hearing re-scheduled to your local court.

In short. It's not a summons, it was a notification that they intend to put a case to the court that has been disguised to look like a summons.

If I were you, I'd send details of this to the Office of Fair Trading. It would almost certainly count as a misleading trading practice.
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[Joncrete Cungle]

[thx1138]

I agree with stinkwheel.


As an aside, county court cases,I am fairly sure that the defendant can ask to have the case heard in their local county court. Magistrates courts, this does not apply.

[P.]

What phone and does it come from the same number.

MrBlocker on Android is superb.

[Rogerborg]

No debt exists. As said, ignore until and unless an actual summons hits the mat.

If you want to hack off the debt collectors, here's how to complain. Start with the muggers, end at the Financial Ombudsman Service.

Hammer on the distress and inconvenience they've caused.

One thing though, what exactly are the DVLA accusing you of?

Failure to purchase VED? If so, you're golden, stick to your story.

If it's failure to either insure or SORN, then that's a stickier wicket, because there's a nasty "Prove your innocent" clause in there that might trip you up.

If the bike isn't insured and they haven't confirmed the SORN yet, do yourself a favour and SORN online ASAP.
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[Wonko The Sane]

I'd say pick a date and let them prove you wrong.

they can't prove you wrong, if they could there'd be not be taking you to court for not telling them!
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