Drink driving in Thames valley...

[daemonoid]

Thames valley have been having a crack down on drink driving this December. They've sent an email out to the neighbourhood watch group (which I used to be a member of). They're very proud of:

[Rogerborg]

Also, I'd be very surprised if those arrests are all necessary.

If it looks like you're going to be nabbed by Constable McTargets, I'd suggest firing in early doors with "I intend to accompany you voluntarily and co-operate fully so that you can promptly and effectively investigate the matter," (even if you have no such intentions) in order to set up your compo claim later.
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[Skudd]

Well if you can't afford to tax, insure and run a car then you are not going to get done for drink driving.

It must be a Green policy working, getting people off the road stops drink driving.
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[Andy_Pagin]

Seeing that a DIC arrest is a random and unpredictable event, I can't see how any meaningful stats can be compiled or any convincing conclusions reached.
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[Rogerborg]

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[Mark_F]

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[Pete.]

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[gavcarter]

Someone probably made the figures up in the first to make them LOOK like they had done something lol

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Ok, but that's about 1 in 3. I doubt 1/3 of those arrested would be in that situation...

It's a hell of a lot and your explanation may cover a few, but 1 in 3?[/quote]

I would assume they will breathalyse everyone they stop at this time of the year, not just the ones that meander all over the road and can't walk in a straight line. There may be more borderline cases that are just above the limit in that case?

[zark]

In some forces, the roadside breath test only shows a red, amber, green result. (Fail, warn, pass). Other forces actually get a 'mouth alcohol score.' A red light is not evidence of an offence, merely a good indication that an offence is committed (providing grounds for arrest being necessary)

Obviously a 'red' fail at the roadside requires further investigation... So you can expect to be arrested, taken to a police station and (if you're able) provide 2 breath samples on the evidential machine. (The lower of these 2 readings used in evidence.

It's not uncommon to blow red at the roadside and then 35 or lower at the police station... In which case, you're released without further action necessary. Over the limit and you can expect a court date. A shade over the limit - you may be offered a blood option - in which case you can be bailed for 6 weeks until the police know the result.

But you're right - the only statistical conclusion is that if you conduct more roadside breath tests, you're more likely to find more drivers fail.

If you didn't do any roadside breath tests... Would there be no drink driving??

[daemonoid]

[Pete.]

That's about the stupidest question I've seen on the subject. Optional arrest indeed - anyone who said yes is too stupid to be on the road amongst other people.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[daemonoid]

[Rogerborg]

[Pete.]

You asked why is there a need for arrest. The reason is plain, if there wasn't then no guilty person would accede to the request and as soon as they left the copper's presence there would be no hope for a conviction later. Might as well as a burglar with a bag full of swag if they mind popping down to the station later.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

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[DrSnoosnoo]

The subsequent effects on job applications DBS checks etc etc. Having an arrest could indeed prevent you from certain lines of work.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Erm, no, it won't.

I'm pretty sure (seeing as you mention DBS checks) that I'm in the same line of work as you.

I actually went up to York a few years ago and so have first hand knowledge of what they are checking for.

Arrests won't mean a failed check, not mentioning an arrest or lying about it will....

Quite frankly, they won't be the slightest bit interested in an arrest for suspected DD if you were found to be under the limit so long as you put it on the form.

Next time I have to go through the check, I've got to declare an arrest for alledged harrassment and possession of an offensive weapon but I'm to bothered in the slightest.
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[spooks007]

The road side breath test is only a guide and anything over 35 that person will be arrested and taken to a police station for an evidential test.

Whilst at the station if the lowest reading of both samples is below 40 you will be NFA

If reading is 40-50 you have a right to challenge the breath test and opt for using or a blood sample that will then replace the originl breath test. Results can take up to 6 weeks to return hence bail

Over 50 instant charge.

Hope that clarifies the matter for you