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PostPosted: 00:57 - 10 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bubbs wrote:
Do you have access to a bike in the uk?


Not really. Will go begging before I come back, for much beer and love.

Or maybe rent-a-car.... will have gf with me.
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 13 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi Bubs, I noticed you talked about electric solar panels above, but I was talking about the hot water panels. Maybe you've looked at them and decided against, but if not, definitely have a look. The panels are diyable and not too expensive for free hot water = really good savings per £ put in.

The other thing that you've probably already thought about after the recent rain is general land drainage around the outside of the property. Put in loads.

When I was having a place built I took the architects drawing and redid them myself. It really makes you look at the measurements of everything, from internal doors and which way they open, to where furniture will fit in, services will run, windows go etc etc. Every time you go to draw something you have to think about how long that line needs to be and you get a tape measure out and start measuring furniture around you, bath sizes, gap of the toilet from the sink. It never ends.
It also massively helped in working out how wide to make the entrance to the driveway and parking areas - you actually start measuring cars, bikes, turning circles etc.
That level of detail really helped me to think about how I was going to use the place, although it does take up many hours.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 13 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
jnw010 wrote:
Hi Bubs, I noticed you talked about electric solar panels above, but I was talking about the hot water panels. Maybe you've looked at them and decided against, but if not, definitely have a look. The panels are diyable and not too expensive for free hot water = really good savings per £ put in.

The other thing that you've probably already thought about after the recent rain is general land drainage around the outside of the property. Put in loads.

When I was having a place built I took the architects drawing and redid them myself. It really makes you look at the measurements of everything, from internal doors and which way they open, to where furniture will fit in, services will run, windows go etc etc. Every time you go to draw something you have to think about how long that line needs to be and you get a tape measure out and start measuring furniture around you, bath sizes, gap of the toilet from the sink. It never ends.
It also massively helped in working out how wide to make the entrance to the driveway and parking areas - you actually start measuring cars, bikes, turning circles etc.
That level of detail really helped me to think about how I was going to use the place, although it does take up many hours.


Ah right yeah, we have looked at the radiator type solar panels. I'm not sure if our planning authority would allow us to put them on the roof, they were against putting solar panels on there.

The level of detail you describe is what we have been doing. I downloaded cad and learned how to use it. I now make ammends in cad and send back to the architect who then checks to see if it affect building regs.

I've even gone into looking at toilet shape to stop having the streaks down the pan while doing your business. There was a thread on here about it and I have learned a lot ha ha.

Yeah this project is very much my baby. The actual design has changed about 3 times now - I just keep coming up with ideas and changes and now getting to a point where we are both happy with it.

More updates will be coming after this week so will update the thread with new drawings. Thumbs Up

Thanks for the advice.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 16 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Awesome. Sounds like you've got it pretty much covered then! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 16 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bubbs wrote:
Sounds great but I doubt people would want to come to work on a weekend off.


You'd be surprised, it's amazing how many places are actually charging people for "working holidays" these days Neutral

Glad to see the conversion is progressing. We went to view an1830s stone built bungalow in Scotland a week or two back, needed a fair bit of work but less than the church I was trying to convince my other half that we really wanted Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 16 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Bubbs wrote:
Sounds great but I doubt people would want to come to work on a weekend off.


You'd be surprised, it's amazing how many places are actually charging people for "working holidays" these days Neutral



I've never understood that, I quite often do the "work for food/accomodation" type things, which I consider a fair trade/get to meet people/explore a new country etc etc.

Fucking paying to bust your balls for someone else though, I've never understood that one at all.
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 16 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
smegballs wrote:
Tarmacsurfer wrote:

You'd be surprised, it's amazing how many places are actually charging people for "working holidays" these days Neutral



I've never understood that, I quite often do the "work for food/accomodation" type things, which I consider a fair trade/get to meet people/explore a new country etc etc.

Fucking paying to bust your balls for someone else though, I've never understood that one at all.


I think that applies more to working on something where you're actually learning new skills - I've seen a few hippy type builds take advantage of that with "new technology" as in how to build a mud hut. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 16 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
This looks like an amazing project, best of luck to you Bubbs!
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 12 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Time for an update.

I've been trying to solve a water problem. The building is right up on the mountain and a lot of water comes off the mountain through the property when it rains... being in Wales it rains a hell of a lot. We had a problem with the stone work down below ground level which was letting water come into the building and created a stream inside the property. So my next task was to divert it.

First off I had to clean the path. The water was coming through near the 2nd window you can see in the background

https://i.imgur.com/JWgQjpA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IN2nHoW.jpg

Next I had to knock through the concrete
https://i.imgur.com/ZZKB6Hd.jpg

Then started trenching

https://i.imgur.com/k8uUJ8z.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/J57ggFM.jpg?1

The floor naturally slopes towards the rear of the house, so I had to dig a trench right the way around. First though I had to clear a load of brambles

https://i.imgur.com/SzXqNNy.jpg

Once they were removed I was left with a few trees to get rid of

https://i.imgur.com/vSmOrqI.jpg

Pulling out the remaining stumps... bloody hard work

https://i.imgur.com/WiJ8LvT.jpg

This stump snapped my fork.

https://i.imgur.com/qzbspKU.jpg?1

But I managed to get the fuckers out

https://i.imgur.com/sWrrizc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GwQsAQK.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gde7F57.jpg

This final one was an absolute beast. Took ages to dig it out.

https://i.imgur.com/ErTaWzl.jpg?1

I am victorious

https://i.imgur.com/tnuEVRa.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/O4KsAdi.jpg


So now I had a tree free route to trench all the way down to drain the water.

Trenching begins
https://i.imgur.com/HbKQbcl.jpg

Trenching complete

https://i.imgur.com/7t0azs1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/a8i2BjY.jpg

Surprising how much water there was coming out of there. This has now cut off the water and has stopped leaking into the house. 3 solid evenings of back breaking work and it's sorted.

My next updates will be installing perforated pipe and laying stone around it, then sorting out the internal groundwork's, then it will be onto the slab and new roof.
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 12 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Best of luck with diverting that water.

Mates of mine bought a house in Fareham, Hants and it turned out to have a stream running through the garden and directly under the house. It's caused them no end of financial issues/stress. Getting the garden dug up and sorted out cost them £15k...and that doesn't remotely cover the damage caused inside the house...walls shifting, windows cracking etc. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 12 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Clanger wrote:
Best of luck with diverting that water.


I'll second that, I'd definitely be going way overboard with the diversion tactics. Whatever you think will be sufficient, double the capacity. It might cost a bit (or a lot) more, but that's the fun of building eh?
Any chance of putting a f'ing big trench with land drainage a bit further away from the house? and getting a mini digger down there? they really do make digging a bit easier. Wink
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If you're pulling roots/stumps out then a grubbing mattock is your best friend, looks like a pickaxe with wide beaks, they chop through and give better leverage than a fork and pick in concert. I do a lot of landscaping and clearance work - it's by far my most used tool.https://www.bbc.co.uk/ahistoryoftheworld/static/v1.0/ic/iclarge/historyworld-webapp/user/g/gardenersquestiontime/object/2OscNJ03TtmiPIsc_C4tmA/asset/1
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Tarmacsurfer wrote:
If you're pulling roots/stumps out then a grubbing mattock is your best friend, looks like a pickaxe with wide beaks, they chop through and give better leverage than a fork and pick in concert. I do a lot of landscaping and clearance work - it's by far my most used tool.https://www.bbc.co.uk/ahistoryoftheworld/static/v1.0/ic/iclarge/historyworld-webapp/user/g/gardenersquestiontime/object/2OscNJ03TtmiPIsc_C4tmA/asset/1



I'll second that, I got one and sharpened up both blades on it, managed to dig out three stumps at a customers house on Tuesday, (about the same sizes as yours, and only took an hour for all three)
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 13 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tarmacsurfer wrote:
If you're pulling roots/stumps out then a grubbing mattock is your best friend, looks like a pickaxe with wide beaks, they chop through and give better leverage than a fork and pick in concert. I do a lot of landscaping and clearance work - it's by far my most used tool.https://www.bbc.co.uk/ahistoryoftheworld/static/v1.0/ic/iclarge/historyworld-webapp/user/g/gardenersquestiontime/object/2OscNJ03TtmiPIsc_C4tmA/asset/1


Wish I'd known about this earlier. Will come in handy for other stumps though. Thanks
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 13 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tarmacsurfer wrote:
If you're pulling roots/stumps out then a grubbing mattock is your best friend, looks like a pickaxe with wide beaks, they chop through and give better leverage than a fork and pick in concert. I do a lot of landscaping and clearance work - it's by far my most used tool.https://www.bbc.co.uk/ahistoryoftheworld/static/v1.0/ic/iclarge/historyworld-webapp/user/g/gardenersquestiontime/object/2OscNJ03TtmiPIsc_C4tmA/asset/1


Wish I'd known about this earlier. Will come in handy for other stumps though. Thanks
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I agree with the people saying they would do more with the stream diversion. Didn't you buy the land behind the schoolhouse? I would have dug a more substantial trench further out from the walls. You've shifted a long-established watercourse and run it tight to a foundation that has previously been kept dry. The new route will be eroded for some time until it settles IMHO and that might cause structural damage.
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Pete. wrote:
I agree with the people saying they would do more with the stream diversion. Didn't you buy the land behind the schoolhouse? I would have dug a more substantial trench further out from the walls. You've shifted a long-established watercourse and run it tight to a foundation that has previously been kept dry. The new route will be eroded for some time until it settles IMHO and that might cause structural damage.


It's not a stream diversion. It's a ground water diversion. It was collecting in one spot and trickling into the house. If it was a stream i'd have diverted it well away from the house for obvious reasons. The water you see flowing in the pics is the water that had collected in the original trench.
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 13 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bubbs wrote:

It's not a stream diversion. It's a ground water diversion. It was collecting in one spot and trickling into the house. If it was a stream i'd have diverted it well away from the house for obvious reasons. The water you see flowing in the pics is the water that had collected in the original trench.


Ok but...

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When we pulled up the floor boards we found a stream running through the house so there were many boards that we can't reuse due to damp. Got to find a way to re-route the stream or run it under the slab through the house.


Bubbs wrote:
There is an underground spring that has a constant stream year round.


Bubbs wrote:
Inside now cleaned out. You can see the stream to the left:

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It would probably be wise to go round there with a mini-digger and take out a trench at least two feet deep and the same away from the foundations if they are at all suspect.
6" Perforated pipe in the bottom, and gravel or similar filling the trench.
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Pete. wrote:
Bubbs wrote:

It's not a stream diversion. It's a ground water diversion. It was collecting in one spot and trickling into the house. If it was a stream i'd have diverted it well away from the house for obvious reasons. The water you see flowing in the pics is the water that had collected in the original trench.


Ok but...

Bubbs wrote:
When we pulled up the floor boards we found a stream running through the house so there were many boards that we can't reuse due to damp. Got to find a way to re-route the stream or run it under the slab through the house.


Bubbs wrote:
There is an underground spring that has a constant stream year round.


Bubbs wrote:
Inside now cleaned out. You can see the stream to the left:


Original posts were before I dug it up. Not a spring or stream. Just a lot of water coming off the mountain. Will dig another ditch to be safe. Can't tell from the pics but the ditch is a good 2ft deep.
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You could put in a land-drain. Dig the trench slightly deeper, put in perforated drain pipe and cover with pea shingle.
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Bubbs wrote:

My next updates will be installing perforated pipe and laying stone around it

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You could put in a land-drain. Dig the trench slightly deeper, put in perforated drain pipe and cover with pea shingle.


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*Update*

Not a massive update as I got disheartened while trying to sort out my mortgage. They were really taking the piss, and random charges kept popping up here and there for no reason other than to rinse me on money. So £4k down and I've finally got the mortgage through... £60k sitting in the bank at the moment - just dreaming about the stuff I can buy with it.

So since then my morale has improved and I have done a little more but not a great deal. The next update will include the progress to date.

So I spent a weekend with friends of mine from uni who are now hot shot architects. Just chatting to them about my project and they jumped at the chance to get involved for free... this is what they came up with:

Downstairs - re-designed. Gives us a good size for a kitchen and utility room.
https://i.imgur.com/QFdGL1v.jpg

Upstairs
https://i.imgur.com/LcdJICV.jpg

Computer generated images of what it will look like

https://i.imgur.com/r7pbRQD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/uw3wYub.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ntk3vaK.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/T81qVAj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5yXF0RJ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Tnkoqxh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Dr3wmD3.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/thwareN.jpg

I thought they were pretty cool. So proper getting into the swing of things now. Think i'll update once the concrete slab has gone down.
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