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PostPosted: 21:22 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Which Pellets? Reply with quote

Hi,
I finally got an Air rifle. (Awaits Covent.Gardens remarks **Yawn**)

Got a BSA Lightning XL .177 Tactical with scope and bag. Spent today tidying up the garden and making up a back stop.

Anyway i was wondering whats the best/ good value pellets to get for target shooting? Every pellet i've looked at so far has had really bad reviews. I'd ideally like to spend ~£6 on a x500 tin.

Cheers,
Shaun R.
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really is horses for courses in regards to matching your rifle with the right pellets.
I use AA Diablo Field in my three .22 rifles but my two .177 fifles like FX pellets.

What I would say is always go for a domed head pellet as it's the most stable over all distances.

Here's where I bulk buy mine.
For you sir, may I recommend RWS Superdomes. An excellent all-rounder. Thumbs Up

Do not waste any time with Eley Wasps, you'll think there's something wrong with your rifle. Thumbs Down


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PostPosted: 22:15 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always had good experiences with Crosman Premiers.
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

recman wrote:
It really is horses for courses in regards to matching your rifle with the right pellets.
I use AA Diablo Field in my three .22 rifles but my two .177 fifles like FX pellets.

What I would say is always go for a domed head pellet as it's the most stable over all distances.

Here's where I bulk buy mine.
For you sir, may I recommend RWS Superdomes. An excellent all-rounder. Thumbs Up


when I worked in a hobby shop that sold air rifles (alongside train sets and scalextric) I was told it was flats or domed (if you couldn't get flats) for taking down vermin and points for targets - is this not the case?
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

recman wrote:

For you sir, may I recommend RWS Superdomes. An excellent all-rounder. Thumbs Up


Also Very good.

Black Sheep wrote:
I was told it was flats or domed (if you couldn't get flats) for taking down vermin and points for targets - is this not the case?


Flats for close range, 10m and under, domes for general purpose. Most of the funny shapes, hollow points and such were a waste of money.
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried H&N Diablo pointed pellets and while they were reasonable, they weren't as consistent as the Superdomes I mentioned earlier.
No pointed pellets have been able to match domed in my experience.

If you're going to use flats for close range ratting or 10-15 yard paper punching, you may as well go with really cheap Geco or RWS Hobbys.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

H&N Field Target Trophy. Thumbs Up

Superdomes are a good choice too. Smile
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
H&N Field Target Trophy. Thumbs Up

Superdomes are a good choice too. Smile


I have half a tin of H&N FT Trophy rattling around somewhere which just goes to show that you can get loads of recommendations but at the end of the day its just the same as buying a bike, you won't know which one is right until you try a few.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed for hunting I'd use domed pellets every time....paid £10 for a tin of cross man .22 last week! Been a long time since I bought some lead....it ain't cheap for half usable pellets anymore!

Pointy pellets even good ones fly off at any point over 20 meters and make no sense to me for hunting....wad cutters for lower power target use over short range..Heavier.domed pellets can clean kill a rat at 30 yards if your rifle is up to the job.
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

recman wrote:


I have half a tin of H&N FT Trophy rattling around somewhere which just goes to show that you can get loads of recommendations but at the end of the day its just the same as buying a bike, you won't know which one is right until you try a few.


All the suggestions are well made domed pellets. I think we have a theme.
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a place you could buy a 'pick n mix' of different pellets to experiment with and find the one that suited your rifle the best. Can't remember the name / place off the top of my head sorry. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 00:19 - 09 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was Pellpax but unfortunately they don't do the selection packs any more.

A quick Google around shows that this site does small test packs of popular pellets though:

https://www.pelletperfect.co.uk/index.php?route=common/home
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 09 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kari-On wrote:
Whether this sways you or not, or is of interest to you or not, I don't know.

I vaguely remember someone suggesting that chrono tests were done using Bisley Magnums, as a way of measuring the ft lb'age of rifles, for purposes of checking whether the rifle was over the limit or not. I used them when I was chrono'ing my rifles/in laws rifles.


They were always recommended as they're the heaviest pellet and will produce the highest results. Hence if you're unlucky enough to have your guns seized and tested by the police, and you've verified them with magnums, then they should pass with ease. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 09 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a chrono then try some pellets. About 700 fps and 11.8 foot pounds was what did best for me. H+N Field targets.
Used Webley Wasps??? but they took the gun over the limit, more accurate though but couldn't use them as they had random chrono testing. Should be ok for messing about with.
If you use teles stick to one pellet as they all react differently.

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PostPosted: 11:11 - 09 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Bisley Practise for plinking, they seem happy in most guns.

Posher RWS target ones for proper target use and some hollow-headed ones for ratting as even my little meteor will put flats or domed clean through a rat.

If you're doing paper target shooting, flats (aka wadcutters, for this reason) are the only way to get neat holes and are also the only thing allowed in competition as the neat holes = accurate scoring. So if you have any ideas that way, find the pellets that suit your gun now. Some shops will do variety packs to let you try lots of different makes/weights.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 09 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
Thanks for all the useful info. Its much appreciated.Karma all round Karma

Finally went for some AA Field .177 after the comments on here and using https://airguninfo.page.tl/Pellets.htm

Thanks again,
Shaun.
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 10 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always used eley wasps for general use and the super-lightweight crossman premieres for moonlighting pigeons to get the muzzle velocity for feather penetration and flatter trajectory for close-range, near-vertical elevations.

I found the eley wasps the be very well finished, especially around the skirt area and with a neat stippled head which I haven't seen on another pellet.

Sizing your pellets is a worthwhile exercise, keep the over/under ones for plinking and the really consistant ones for hunting and your pre-shoot zero. You can size .177" pellets by seeing how fat they go down an empty biro pen barrel. I used to have one with two marks on. If the pellet landed between those marks, it went in the "good" tin, if it didn't, it went in the "plinking" tin.

Seating the pellet in the breach using something other than the end of your finger also aids consistency. Here is where that biro comes in handy again. Or an old headphone jack plug (one of the larger ones).
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PostPosted: 06:43 - 18 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Top tip, buy yourself a small chronograph and test your output, always best not to let the police think they have one over on you should you get pulled. And make sure that you have a case to keep the rifle in so that transporting from house to car or car to field causes joe public to think you are a crazed gun man.

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PostPosted: 07:38 - 18 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few questions as I now have a gun (Gamo varmint stalker, terrible name Laughing )

Whats this chronograph for testing the gun and how does it work.

Surely if I buy a gun from a gunsmith it is going to be legal whatever the pellets I put in.

I'm having problems setting the sights. Is there a reccomended way or is it just trial and error. I have the gun in a vise and shooting it from that to set it up.
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PostPosted: 08:59 - 18 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
A few questions as I now have a gun (Gamo varmint stalker, terrible name Laughing )

Whats this chronograph for testing the gun and how does it work.

Surely if I buy a gun from a gunsmith it is going to be legal whatever the pellets I put in.

I'm having problems setting the sights. Is there a reccomended way or is it just trial and error. I have the gun in a vise and shooting it from that to set it up.

A chronograph is a small device that you can either shoot through or the smaller variety fixes to the end of your gun. When you shoot the pellet beaks a mall light beam front and back and the chonograph can measure the velocity of the pellet, giving you a reading that should in the UK be under or not more than 12 ft/lb's

Using different weight pellets, say a bisley magnum which are about the heaviest compared to a wasp (light) will change the velocity of the pellet. So example, if you fire a heavy pellet and can adjust your rifle with that pellet to just under the limit, then fire a light pellet, you will find yourself over the legal limit. Thats why it is good to have a chrono' so you know where you are.

Hope that helps

As for adjusting a scope, set yourself up at say 40 yards to your target, and always fire with your cross hair centered. If you are low, high, left or right adjust the scope to suit. If you still have inaccuracy make sure that everything is tight as loose things will not help
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