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PostPosted: 09:57 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: MIB claim and bike repairs, bikelessness, what would you do? Reply with quote

Morning All,

Following my crash at the end of October I am currently bikeless. My arm is now getting to a stage where I could start riding again and the train is full of the scummers of this fine city so I'm pretty desperate to get back on two wheels of any size as soon as possible.

My divvy has been sitting out in front of my flat since the crash untouched. It is ride-able but needs a few things done to it to make it usable for the journey to work and back. If I repaired all of the damage it would no doubt be a write off but I think I could probably get away with just replacing the indicators and headrace for the time being.

I have a solicitor dealing with my claim (rather than a claims management company) and they have asked me to organise a valuation for repairs through a Yamaha dealer and not to make any repairs myself. They have also advised me that as it is a claim through the MIB it could take up to 18 months before any payout is made. This essentially leaves me bike-less for a year and a half if I go by what they would like me to do!

I'm not really sure what the best option is, I don't have the money to outright by another bike, even the likes of cg125's and H100's are over what I have to hand. If I repair the bike myself I am ignoring my solicitors advice which I assume they have given for a reason. But I really really do not want to be without a bike for 18 months.

What would you do?
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the bike inspected and damage documented first - then effect repairs. Tell your solicitors that's what you intend to do because of your circumstances

Why through mib? Didn't stop?
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah fled the scene, no third party to claim from.
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a bastard Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Good luck with this. As Arry says, get some independent quotes for the repairs. I would be tempted to suggest getting at least 2 quotes.

All the best

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PostPosted: 11:54 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mrs had an accident but was being dragged out, so I repaired the car myself, took photos, and forwarded all receipts for parts and the photos on to the solicitors who claimed for it back.

Admittedly, we was claiming from a third party not MIB, but still your solicitors dealing with it should be working FOR YOU, and be organising the best outcome for you, and if you can't be without transport for 18months, then they need to find away to be able to reclaim any money that is lost through the claim.

The Mrs car was most definitely a write off, but was never written off as it was never visited by an assessor, they was more than happy to pay for our parts on the repair cost rather than an overpriced bodyshop.
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Following on from this, I've still heard very little from my solicitor regarding the progress of the claim. I've chased them up a couple of times but I'm not really getting anywhere.

I understand that the injury side of things can take a while, but all I want is an answer from them regarding whether there will be a claim or not on the bike so that I can repair the divvy. I am at least on two wheels at the moment, but the SV I am riding has a few niggles and I'd far rather be back on the diversion.

I'm considering changing solicitor but I am all signed up with this one, does anybody know what the ins and outs of changing are? If I am changing because I am frustrated with the lack of communication am I still going to be liable to pay for any work they have done thus far?

Edit: just to clarify, my solicitor despite supposedly being a specialist in MIB claims (or so I was told), doesn't know whether I can claim for the damages to the bike in an untraced driver claim. I won't pay out for the assessment until I know that I can make a claim as I am fairly certain I cannot. About 3 weeks ago I was told they would look into whether I can claim for the bike or not, but I have not heard back since.
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was you mate I would be on the phone to the solicitors every day chasing this up, they will soon get fed up of dealing with all your calls.
And pull their finger out when they realize they may have to actually work for their money otherwise they will just let it run and run.
Good luck with your claim.
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where did you find these solicitors?

Is your claim being dealt with by one of the partners of the firm or by someone less experienced?

In regards to changing solicitors, your best bet on that one would be to speak with solicitors that you would like to change to and see what they have to say.

If you want to change solicitors then the Law Society and Legal 500 would be where I'd start looking.

Nothing is ever straight forward. Sad
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benjums wrote:
If I was you mate I would be on the phone to the solicitors every day chasing this up, they will soon get fed up of dealing with all your calls.
And pull their finger out when they realize they may have to actually work for their money otherwise they will just let it run and run.
Good luck with your claim.


That, I'm calling people that owe me (letting agents) and any bike claim people (Admiral Law) every single day, twice a day.

Hassle the fuckers.
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The solicitor is from the same firm that a member of ours* works for, I won't name them for now. They are supposedly quite reputable, though I may have fallen for our members sales pitch for all I know.

My particular solicitor is not a partner of the firm, though he does I believe charge their top rate which from memory means he has been qualified for over 7 years or something along those lines.

I will be paying for the solicitor directly from any winnings but only if I win the claim. I'm worried that if I change solicitor I will be charged for any work they have done so far as it is not the cheapest firm!

*I don't think said member posts any more due to a flounce at the end of last year.
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
I will be paying for the solicitor directly from any winnings but only if I win the claim..


You'll walk away in debt unless they claim fuck tons.

My solicitor mistakenly sent me a bill for the other side in legal costs, I lol'd they sent me like 40 letters over the course of my claim and each were stated as being the best part of £150.

Like fuck, would I offer to pay them. Shame its MIB, mine was against an uninsured driver though so payout was through the MIB, with another side to penalise though.
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

No can do. The way it works it this:

If I loose I pay nothing at all.

If I win I pay all of their costs, but up to a maximum of 25% of my winnings.

I'm basically taking it as if I win anything I will loose 25% of it. In my mind 75% of something is better than 100% of nothing!




I've also not been given an answer on how the bike damages claim is paid for yet either. I believe that because of the MIB rules it will be put through as a separate claim to injury (If I can claim for it at all!), but I don't know whether I will then receive the bike money or whether they will hold it and pay it along with injury money. I also don't know whether they will take 25% off of the bike money initially.

In the end I could have waited the best part of 4 months to be told I either can not claim for the bike at all, or that if I do claim I will have to pay £120 for the assessment, and then loose 25% of the cost of the bike too.

I think basically if you get hit and run you continue to get shafted in every way!
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call rider support services on 02082464900 and get them to take over your claim it should cost you nothing or in any case speak to them and get their advice.
I have used them numerous times and so have my friends and people from this forum!

Your solictors sound stupid and don’t waste anymore of your time with them change now make that call!
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
but all I want is an answer from them regarding whether there will be a claim or not on the bike so that I can repair the divvy.


No expert Rolling Eyes But pretty handy with google. Thumbs Up Took all of 1 min.......

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Frequently asked questions about the Untraced Drivers' Agreements

What are the Untraced Drivers’ Agreements?
These agreements between the Secretary of State for the Environment and Transport and MIB explain the precise circumstances under which an application from a victim of untraced motorist will be paid.

In general terms, the 1972 agreement specifies that MIB will make an award for compensation to the victim of a negligent untraced motorist in respect of personal injuries only, where such injuries are caused by the use of a vehicle which is required to be insured by law.

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Personally I would just contact the MIB yourself and get a answer.
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Contact Information
Address:
Motor Insurers' Bureau
Linford Wood House
6-12 Capital Drive
Linford Wood
Milton Keynes
MK14 6XT

DX: 142620 Milton Keynes 10

Telephone Number: 01908 830001
Please note that telephone calls may be monitored for training, quality and security purposes.



You can of course submit your own claim and keep 100% of any payout
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep I've read what the site says a hundred times over, the thing is the solicitor was sure I could claim, all the way up until I copied the text right from the MIB website.

I've also spoken to the MIB on the phone who said in certain circumstances it is possible to claim for possessions in the case of an untraced driver.

What nobody seems to be able to tell me is which cases they are and whether or not I am eligible.




I've decided I'm just going to get the divvy roadworthy anyway, all it should take is a set of indicators and some new headrace bearings. Plus a rebuild of the front brakes from it sitting through the winter.

I'm not going to touch the cosmetic side of the damage, which is more than enough to write the bike off anyway if it comes to an assessment, I figure anything on top of that makes little difference anyway once they decide they are claiming for the value of the bike!
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
Yep I've read what the site says a hundred times over, the thing is the solicitor was sure I could claim, all the way up until I copied the text right from the MIB website.

I have no idea what service you're paying for then.

An untraced driver claim should be straightforward, if not quick, since there's nobody to refute it.


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I've decided I'm just going to get the divvy roadworthy anyway

I agree, but get quotes for fixing it at Yamaha dealer prices first. You can always take a hammer to it to restore it to the state in which the MIB expect you to keep it. Whistle
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand the wait on the injury claim, I broke the arm in a minimum of three places, they need to wait and see how it heals/repairs.

The property side of it makes less sense, and in fact there is an 8 month limitation on property claims so I'm nearly half way through that limit already.
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

woo wrote:
Call rider support services on 02082464900 and get them to take over your claim it should cost you nothing or in any case speak to them and get their advice.
I have used them numerous times and so have my friends and people from this forum!

Your solictors sound stupid and don’t waste anymore of your time with them change now make that call!


Are Rider Support really decent then? My other thought was White Dalton.
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conan, I have an old GPZ500 sitting down in my country mansion.

Its been sat for the best part of 2 years, so not sure if it will start. Should do. It had an MOT when I bought it, so will prolly go thru another one, and the girl I bought it from has had it garaged the whole time.

Thing is that we brought it down from there just after Xmas (I think) and parked it up in our yard in Kent. It fell over on one side into the mud and we hadn't picked it up for a fortnight till we next went down there, so its a bit muddy ... but if you want to come down and have a look to see if you can get it going, you are very welcome to use it to get you back on the road for a bit.

I have an old Beemer that I plan to ride instead, so the GPZ is just sitting gathering dust.

A bit small, I know, but if you can get it going, and want to borrow it ... might get you back on the road till things sort themselves out.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does Fully Comprehensive insurance not cover you for losses to the bike? (Or are you TPFT only?)
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jen,

Thanks for the offer but I've just got myself back on the road on an SV650 in almost the same circumstances, as it goes I think I would have rather been on a GPZ than this bloody pesky bike, but I've paid the money to get the SV on the road now!

Thanks again though.

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PostPosted: 21:41 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear it, matey Smile
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 12 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
Are Rider Support really decent then? My other thought was White Dalton.

Neither of them are very highly reputed, people just like them because of how they go on about being bikers themselves.

The Legal 500 and the Law Society are good places to start looking for a new firm of solicitors.
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