Why dont bike companies make it easier to secure a bike?

[Ribenapigeon]

Why dont bike manufacturers get together with the likes of Almax or Oxford and design a standard whereby bikes can be more effectively secured rather than just hoping you can feed a chain through some part of a bike, which seems to be tricky with newer bikes with less open frames.

[Commuter_Tim]

Corporate Greed? monopolizing?
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[Marmalade]

Because it won't be pretty, it'll be expensive and they'll have to make it in 200 shades of every colour to suit the tarts that need matching everything
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[Llama-Farmer]

Why do that when as stated it'd be expensive and a hassle. Better to just produce a standard immobiliser system and chipped keys like they do with cars. Offer manufacturer factory-fitted alarms.

[andys675]

I'm sure bike manufacturers factor in a number of sales to their production run to cover stolen units, they're still sales as far as they are concerned, why try and loose sales?
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[Fisty]

I know its a scooter but the Peugeot speedfight had a lock built in that you could wrap around a lamp post, fantastic idea.
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[Rogerborg]

Would you choose one bike over another purely on the basis of it having a better anchor point?

The adage is: a bike stolen is a bike sold.
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Never had a problem looping mine though the yokes/wheels/swingarm to honest.....
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[davebike]

Bikes are sold all over the world
Few countries have the bike theft problem we do because in uk vehicle theft is a jolly prank in most of the world you go to prison

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[Ribenapigeon]

I'm thinking not just chains but also some kind of clamp that the bike could sort of dock with. All chains are vulnerable to a big enough bolt cropper.

[Conzar]

Bike has no built in lock - gets stolen - buys a new one
Bike has lock built in - doesn't get stolen as much - not as much bikes get bought
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[jeddy11]

My bike came with a nice space for one of those manufacturer u locks under the seat unfortunately they wanted like 100 quid extra for the actual lock the Robbin bastards ..
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[Atomic Punk]

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I do recall scooter makers tried to put security. There was one where you pulled a bike chain sort of thing out of the back. Disadvantage iirc is it was too short to actually go around anything and it was bike chain quality so easily cut.

Also the Vespa LX has a metal loop on the chassis for a chain. Only it's too small for anything meaningful and so badly placed it's useless.

The do have immobilisers etc (eg Honda HISS). Except that doesn't stop bike being lifted into back of a van.
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[Northern Monkey]

Because anything that made the bike easier to secure would need to be quite heavy to be effective.

People would want to buy the lighter bikes, not bikes with extra bits of metal welded to them to loop a chain through

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[Ribenapigeon]

Half a kilo of metal work is hardly a deal braker.

What I'm imagining is not a loop but a universal fitting which security companies could then do with what they like.

I really don't think a bike stolen is a bike sold. Car makers stepped up their security in the 90s as car thefts got out of hand and consumer demand kicked in.

[Northern Monkey]

[drzsta]

Nearly all bikes will be successfully secured through the swingarm/wheel.

[Ribenapigeon]

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[CaNsA]

[G]

Standardised security also means standardised methods to get around security.

The speedfight came with an inbuilt lock, I believe.