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 Posted: 14:52 - 24 Sep 2013 Post subject: Promised £500 travel bursary by uni and they're not paying! |
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Back in 2011 when I was going off to university, Swansea Met were advertising in their prospectus a £500 non means tested travel bursary for all students. The only criteria was that you lived over 45 miles away on the AA route planner door to door.
After signing up and be committed to the university, when we all received our welcome packs, they cheekily had revoked this offer and according to them we were no longer eligible and the bursary was no longer available for our year. (However continuing students were still eligible and students that joined the year after also got the bursary)
Here is a picture of it clearly written in the 2011 perspectus:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1235354_10153256374565720_1636071694_n.jpg
We also have screenshots of the website from the year we were going advertising the bursary as well.
Coupled with this, we have managed to obtain a financial report (which I believe the uni has to publish each year) showing that the money was actually put aside when the plan for the year was made in order to give us the bursaries as it doesn't come from the university, the welsh government actually give the uni the money to give to us.
Now, what I want to know is how legally binding all this stuff is? We've had meeting after meeting with members of the university, and they think that because in our welcome packs it said we weren't eligible, they've covered themselves. I personally can't believe that for a second.
I need to know from someone who has a good understanding about this sort of stuff the best course of action. We've tried the nice way by speaking to them and they've basically after 2 years of fobbing us off just laughed in our face and said no.
Think its a bit of a piss take to be honest. That £500 have would insured, tax'd mot'd and serviced my bike each year which is exactly what it's there for! I've never really needed it as I had some money put away, but this year I'm going to really struggle to keep my bike on the road as I just don't have the cash at the moment.
Adds up to £1500 over the three years each person will be down which is a ridiculous amount of money to a student so only help would be appreciated in the replies.
I'll try and dig out the financial report and post it up here but any advice on course of action would be great.
Thanks ____________________ CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.
Bikes: 2007 Derbi GPR 50, 1998 Yamaha Fazer 600 (written off), 2002 Yamaha Fazer 600, 1994 CBR 600F, 2003 Triumph Daytona 600, Kawasaki ZX6R J1.....Current: 2006 Yamaha FZ6, 1998 Suzuki TL1000R and a Honda VFR 400 NC30. |
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Here is a link to the financial plan I was on about:
https://www.hefcw.ac.uk/documents/about_he_in_wales/studying_in_he/Swansea%20Met%20fee%20plan.pdf
Page 6 of the report. ____________________ CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.
Bikes: 2007 Derbi GPR 50, 1998 Yamaha Fazer 600 (written off), 2002 Yamaha Fazer 600, 1994 CBR 600F, 2003 Triumph Daytona 600, Kawasaki ZX6R J1.....Current: 2006 Yamaha FZ6, 1998 Suzuki TL1000R and a Honda VFR 400 NC30. |
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 map Mr Calendar

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Not been legally trained I'd say on the face of it would depend on whether the wording in the prospectus constituted a contract between you and the university.
...and you really should pop along to (a) Citizens Advice and/or (b) one of those legal firms that do free 30min/1hour consultations to see if they can squeeze you for cash give you some advice.
Best of luck  ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
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| map wrote: | Not been legally trained I'd say on the face of it would depend on whether the wording in the prospectus constituted a contract between you and the university.
...and you really should pop along to (a) Citizens Advice and/or (b) one of those legal firms that do free 30min/1hour consultations to see if they can squeeze you for cash give you some advice.
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I shall have a ponder.
Heres the screenshot of the website as well by the way: ____________________ CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.
Bikes: 2007 Derbi GPR 50, 1998 Yamaha Fazer 600 (written off), 2002 Yamaha Fazer 600, 1994 CBR 600F, 2003 Triumph Daytona 600, Kawasaki ZX6R J1.....Current: 2006 Yamaha FZ6, 1998 Suzuki TL1000R and a Honda VFR 400 NC30. |
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Indeed, you "may" be eligible.
Look you, this is a simple contractual dispute. Advice on that is what the CAB is there for, but essentially you just:
#1 Invoice Swansea poly, explain why you think they owe you money, and tell them how long they've got to pay.
#2 When they ignore you or tell you to GTFO, do the exactly same again but this time head it NOTICE BEFORE ACTION.
#3 File a claim against them.
Chop chop. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I said screenshot numpty. Not link. ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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| JonB wrote: |
I said screenshot numpty. Not link. |
It clearly says £500 on the screenshot though. |
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Simply threaten legal action against them.
Universities have a form of charity status ( ) but really with the introduction of fees, you're in effect a customer of theirs.
Therefore you signed a contract they signed a contract. You have them for either breaking the terms or specific performance.
The funny thing is if they say 'no legitimate expectation' then they are in effect saying all of the things they advertise in their prospectus has 'no legitimate expectation'.
Which would be like saying yeah the prospectus is a lie which has them in a pickle. ____________________ "It's easy to attack and destroy an act of creation. It's a lot more difficult to perform one" |
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From recent experience start the claim online, it's cheaper. To claim £500 it'll cost you £35 (see here for pdf with costs, page 3).
If it goes to a hearing I understand that for £500 the hearing fee will be £55. Fees increase the more money you're claiming.
If your claim is successful you stand a chance of getting back the fees paid (the defendant has to pay them to you).
For £35 it's worth a punt and I found it a bit of a game getting the evidence together and then using that to refute what the defendant came up with.
HTH  ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
Gibbs, what did Duckie look like when he was younger? 
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| JonB wrote: |
I said screenshot numpty. Not link. |
You are reading the wrong section of that. |
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| Rogerborg wrote: | Indeed, you "may" be eligible.
Look you, this is a simple contractual dispute. Advice on that is what the CAB is there for, but essentially you just:
#1 Invoice Swansea poly, explain why you think they owe you money, and tell them how long they've got to pay.
#2 When they ignore you or tell you to GTFO, do the exactly same again but this time head it NOTICE BEFORE ACTION.
#3 File a claim against them.
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Can I invoice them for the £1000 for the two years that have ppassed?
I'll get on it asap. ____________________ CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.
Bikes: 2007 Derbi GPR 50, 1998 Yamaha Fazer 600 (written off), 2002 Yamaha Fazer 600, 1994 CBR 600F, 2003 Triumph Daytona 600, Kawasaki ZX6R J1.....Current: 2006 Yamaha FZ6, 1998 Suzuki TL1000R and a Honda VFR 400 NC30. |
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I said screenshot numpty. Not link. |
You suck. Perhaps you should learn to read the correct section. ____________________ '02 GS 500. |
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10 hours and 2 minutes for a double-post to appear. Must be some kind of record.
You might be able to claim for that  ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 4 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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