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You reckon bricks-and-mortal bike shops get their helmets from a different supply chain than online outfits?
Of all the things that bother me about biking, the thought that someone could damage an empty helmet (nothing to deform against) while inside its box without clearly wrecking that box is pretty low on my list.
But that aside: try and buy from a shop. 
Cost has almost no relationship to safety. If you're bothered, check out the SHARP ratings.
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I'm assuming you'll be looking for more than just gloves and a helmet, right?
Things like boots, textile or leather jacket and trousers would be more than handy too. 
Not knowing your location, it's hard to be helpful as to what your nearest bike shop is, that would have a decent amount of gear for you to choose from but, use google and get down there and try stuff on. Don't go for the cheapest gear though, look at the mid-priced stuff and see if there's anything on sale.
I think I payed around £250-300 for my first lot of gear that covered me from head to toe, some of it was sale stuff too. |
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| MissTamsin wrote: | No, but a less than careful courier may be an issue.. |
And who do you think delivers the crash hats to the shop?
More worrysome, if you even knew about it might be stock shifting.
Importers dont like having inventory sat in a shed; they like it on shop sheves where people may pay for it. So they spread as much inventory amongst the retailers as they can take, and few will cary a whole line of hats in every size and every colour; so if shop doesn't have the hat a customer wants in the shop they go into, reps will shift it from one that does have it. Giving it a wipe over when its taken off the display and put back in retail box before slinging it in the boot of the company car, where it might bounce about for a wek until the Rep calls on the shop that wants it.
If you lucky he's not the Oxford rep, with a boot load of disc-locks and heavy chains bashing the box every time he chucks the Mondeo into a corner forgetting he's not on the 'RR' 
But even so transit damage, IS pretty rare, despite these things traveling half way around the world, facing malevolant fork-lift drivers, anphetaime loaded crane operators, minimum wage packers and handlers in the wharehouses, even before white-van-man chucks it in the back of the Sprintah!
This may be, because the 'retail packaging' that a crash hat is sold in... is a bit like a crash-hat. Its a tub, lined with polystyrene; same technology thats intended to stop your head from being knocked about to hard if handled roughly, is used to preserve the hat, if the box is bashed about a bit.
Don't be so 'precious' about them, and don't take all the Safety Spiel as gospel.
Very easy to sell safety on peoples fears; and the marketing men are in no way inclined to dissolution you or put your fears into context or proportion. In fact, more afraid you are... more money you are likely to give them!
Crash Hats, have very little functional purpose. They satisfy Plod that you are not breaching the Road Traffic act, as long as you wear one; they might save you from getting a few bugs in your teeth, and if it has a visor, save having to wear goggles to save your eyes watering over 60mph.
Other than that they do bog all of much use.......
Until you CRASH.
Dont crash - dont need one!
Pretty useful if you do crash of course, but right up to that point, they have NOT in any way made you SAFER than if you didn't have it.
Its tersiary 'protection' the last line of defence when all else has failed.... AND... that means IT GONNA HURT... at which point presence of a crash hat will only effect how much it might hurt, and within pretty small limits.
Face Plant an oncoming Volvo 75tonner bouncing off the speed governer... you are pretty much pancaked regardless. Sharpe ratings, BSI approval standards will mean little.
Fall off at near stand-still, effing up a practice e-stop... well you probably wont even have your head touch tarmac, but even if it does, chances are the impact velocity will be less than walking into a low door-frame. Roger, a hybernian hobbit, probably wont suffer this problem very often, but at 6'2", I do... smarts a bit, but having a crash hat on dont make much difference... except that if you have a hat on, you probably do it again, as you turn round to see what's hit you, through the eye-slit!
So, a crash hat, doesn't make you safe. It does very little until you are very UNSAFE, and then, how much hurt it might save, is pretty much in the lap of the gods anyhow.
DONT be over sold on safety.
"If you have a ten dollar head, wear a Ten Dollar Helmet"....
Thats the oft quoted, prarphrased or other wise repetition distorted idea..... provided here in the original wording, but without the END.... "If not, buy a Bell"
It was actually the advertising tag line for the Bell Start helmet of the late 1970's and early 80's. Its NOT a 'Safety slogan' its a sales pitch!
YES try and buy as good kit as you can afford
YES buy from a shop, so you can try for fit before you hand over cash
BUT, beyond that, do NOT have any delusions that the Crash-Hat will make you any 'Safer' on your bike, even LESS that the name on that hat will make you any safer still.
Use your head, dont stick it in a plastic bucket and think you have safety covered.
Safety starts with NOT crashing, and you can do far more to make yourself 'safe' giving yourself a few feet more road room, looking a little further up the road, and paying attention to NOT crashing, than you ever will, fretting over inappropriately titled 'Safety Ratings', or worrying about industry standard handling and transport preservation standards!
There are so MANY variables we have utterly no control over with regards our safety; to a large degree our fate is, pretty much in the lap of whatever diety you may believe in. How a hat might have been handled before you niy it is merely one, and a pretty insignificant one. Worry about the stuff that you CAN effect useful influence over, and avoid the issue trying not to bludy crash in the first place! It hurts.
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| Posted: 07:26 - 24 Mar 2014 Post subject: Re: New To Biking |
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| Tegwin wrote: | Hello all,
I am new to biking and I have just done my CBT..
I need to get a helmet and gloves etc.. Do you know where the best place is to get them and what are the good helmets to get.. I dont want something cheap (the wont protect me but something decent)
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J&S Accessories, digbeth.
Of course, if you live in Landudno, or Eastbourne or somewhere, that might not be very convenient.
Help us help you a little here.... you want to know where to go... knowing were you are would be a good start.
Meanwhile, backing up a bit; Stock advice on choosing and buying kit, provided here: Costs & Kit.
Where you get it, really down to where may be.
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with a good name and some decent comfort features.....not much else. Gloves.....again just try a load on. Here, cheapo probably does make a difference as they tend to fall apart quicker. Get summer gloves and then get some winter ones later in the year. You'll be amazed at how hot the buggers get in summer,you will NOT be wanting to wear winter gloves all year round. Some thin inner gloves can be worn underneath on particularly cold days.
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