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 Digz L Plate Warrior
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 Posted: 13:24 - 23 Apr 2014 Post subject: New Guy ;) |
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Hey guys,
Been reading this website non stop for the last couple of days!
I'm stuck for choice here, I'm new to riding (my experience goes as far as on road quads and off road dirt bikes both of which were a good couple of years ago)
I've been driving since i could see over the steering wheel! but i am determined to move onto 2 wheels.
Now my questions to you guys n girls are:
1. Is it worth doing the intensive course, bearing in mind i have only spent ~1hour on the roads, on a quad... or shall i take my theory and get 6 hours worth of lessons and a DSA test?
2. I'm thinking of getting a ninja 250 or ninja 300 for the first year. thoughts?
Thanks for reading / answers. and for this abundance of information on this website, its been helpful thus far
Its probably worth noting that i am in the process of selling my car to pay for the bike / tests etc. i hope to have all this completed within a month or two. ____________________ I'll always die to ride, but i wont ride to die. |
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| bikertomm |
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 Posted: 14:40 - 23 Apr 2014 Post subject: |
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Welcome.
To help you some more we need to know your:
A) Age?
B) Budget?
Ninja 250/300? Personally, no.
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 Digz L Plate Warrior
Joined: 20 Apr 2014 Karma : 
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 Posted: 14:49 - 23 Apr 2014 Post subject: |
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Hey, Thanks,
I'm 24. turning 25 mid July. my budget is not really an issue to start with, I'm selling my car for around 11k which is going to fund what I need, then what I have left I will use sensibly
saying that, I'm not going to buy a new bike to start with as ill cry when I drop it
my main worry is what bike to get and what gear I should be looking at, I prefer leathers purely for the protection / looks, but obviously the alternative is better for utility.
I'm going to be using it as my main mode of transport, I drive approx. 50-60 miles a day purely for work, on the motorway for most of it.
any reason why? I've heard nothing but good things for the Ninja for a starter bike. ____________________ I'll always die to ride, but i wont ride to die. |
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| Rogerborg |
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Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :    
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 Posted: 14:58 - 23 Apr 2014 Post subject: Re: New Guy ;) |
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| Digz wrote: | Been reading this website non stop for the last couple of days! |
Keep at it, we all have to finish one Teflon-Mike post in its entirety.
| Digz wrote: | 1. Is it worth doing the intensive course |
At 24, if you're sure you're going to stick with it? Yes. Time on a tiddler is wasted under those circumstances. Just bang through your training and tests ASAP, then consider what you want to do.
| Digz wrote: | 2. I'm thinking of getting a ninja 250 or ninja 300 for the first year. thoughts? |
Eh. You'll be doing your training and tests on a 600cc+ bike making at least 40kW. While it would be sensible to take a big step back down to half that capacity for solo riding, I'd be surprised if you do it. You'll be more comfy on the motorway on a bigger bike for one thing.
I'd suggest that you thrash the nuts off of your training bike and see if you want more, or less, torque and/or top end. There are so many to suggest that this would be a very long thread.
Speaking of which, now over to Mike's SOTP THINKING START TIDDLING lecture. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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 Posted: 16:58 - 23 Apr 2014 Post subject: |
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| Digz wrote: | Hey, Thanks,
I'm 24. turning 25 mid July. my budget is not really an issue to start with, I'm selling my car for around 11k which is going to fund what I need, then what I have left I will use sensibly
saying that, I'm not going to buy a new bike to start with as ill cry when I drop it
my main worry is what bike to get and what gear I should be looking at, I prefer leathers purely for the protection / looks, but obviously the alternative is better for utility.
I'm going to be using it as my main mode of transport, I drive approx. 50-60 miles a day purely for work, on the motorway for most of it.
any reason why? I've heard nothing but good things for the Ninja for a starter bike. |
Ah, good good, you've missed all the rubbish of the new laws then.
One test (or two) and you're pretty much done. Unrestricted licence so you can buy whatever you fancy.
Gear wise, you're right, textiles for a commute will be alot better in that they are hassle free really - waterproof, you can wear things underneath them etc. Also will keep you warmer when it starts getting colder. To give you an indication, with a bit of hunting around you can get a fairly decent textile jacket for £60. And the prices go skywards from there.
Gear wise, you are going to want a few things.
Obviously a helmet - main rule of thumb with these isn't getting the latest race replica but getting one that fits you properly. Find a bike shop near you and try loads on to find the best fitting one. You can go from there with what brand fits you and start to pay more for better features etc. Also worth looking up the 'Sharp test' results.
I personally spend as much as I can afford to on a lid that fits me the best
Gloves - Again, bike shop - try them on. If you can price match to the dealer get them or find them online for cheaper!
Jacket & Trousers - Ebay for a cheap jobby, plenty of good kit available.
Boots - again, trying on session. Decent pair from £100-£300
If you have only ridden a bike on the roads for an hour, obviously don't go buying all the kit and then realise you don't like it!
Might be worth doing a 'get on' free session for starters.
Are you starting to ride out of pleasure or purely to save fuel costs?
This will help to recommend a bike. Motorways on bikes aren't the best.
Reason against the ninja in my opinion is that they are very expensive for what they are. It's like a Toyota MR2 with a ferrari bodykit on.. it may well be a good starter bike but IMO will get boring very quickly. Then again, if fuel consumption is your thing and just want to potter about on something pretty then it could well be the bike for you, need to find out some more!
Hope that helps slightly..  ____________________ 07' Honda Hornet now full powaah! My guide on performing an oil change! |
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 Posted: 17:26 - 23 Apr 2014 Post subject: |
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I wouldn't expect the quad experience to be of much use so don't be suprised if it feels very alien on the road at first might feel strange after years of car driving particularly but you'll get used to it quick so don't let it put you off at first if it all feels a bit precarious and alien. Bike wise, at 24 with an unrestricted license I think you might be better looking at something a bit bigger, especially with a motorway commute - the ninja could do it no doubt, but you could find a bit more power nice to play with, even if you don't use it much to start off with.
The only real reason to avoid a bigger bike is if you're the sort of person than literally has no self control and will pin the throttle without any thought, if you go easy on it and keep in mind the power of the bike at all times its fine and is a lot of fun It may not be an issue with your budget, but you can also get a lot more bigger bike/save money for the amount you will likely spend on one of the ninja's. If you're after them mainly for the looks as well theres plenty of bigger bikes within your [rather huge ] budget you could get your hands on.
Gear wise, for a motorway commute if you're mainly riding A-B i'd get leathers personally. I wear mine all year round usually, even in winter with a layer of thermals and thin jump underneath / sometimes a hoodie over the top [and a rainsuit on the wet days - which in itself warms you up a lot] they're fine, haven't felt cold in temps as low as -5. Textiles are handy, mainly in summer IMO as you can remove the thermal liners and they're a lot cooler to walk around in than leathers if you're visiting places you can't change and store gear etc. If you have a few spare minutes and somewhere to change either end though leathers are fine usually. Also don't presume all textiles are waterproof, some may very quickly leak and let water through and you'll end up soaked - try get feedback on here/read reviews to get an idea whats good if you go down that route for gear.
Gloves/boots wise - As with the last point about textiles; read reviews - don't just go by price/what the product info tells you. Lots are hit and miss as to whether they're actually waterproof, and price isn't always a guarantee. Used gear on ebay too is always a big saving.
Helmets - 50 quid should get you something thats more than fine, or you can get some moto gp replica, carbon fibre wizardry for hundreds if you prefer  |
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