Proposal To Ban E-cig Use In Public Places

[Raffles]

Not content with demonising tobacco users, they are now trying to do the same to e-ciggers.
Unable to concoct 'evidence' that e-cigs are harmful, they are now dubiously claiming that e-cigs could be gateway devices to nicotine addiction among youth, thus opening up a whole new market for tobacco.

Big Brother knows best

The screechers won't be happy until everything that brings pleasure is banned.
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[GhostRider]

Very well, but first can we have an open look at Mr Drakefords bank account so we can see which tobacco company is lining his pockets to come out with this shite?

Think I'll set up my chinese supplier link now, when/if they try to ban them they'll be a lucrative black market, and I'll be there to cash in on it big time.

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[Bofh5]

Some of the comments on the bbc news website are just stupid and shows how brain dead some of the population have become.

Gateway to smoking normal cigarettes

If it wasn't for e-cigs i would still be smoking and smelling awful.

It was only a matter of time. As the tax revenue drops the government drones find a new target.
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[Tungtvann]

It's ridiculous, even as a non-smoker I can't believe this shit that is being spouted here.

"We don't know the long term risks involved, so please go back to smoking normal cigarettes in the mean time."

"If kids start smoking e-cigs, they could then go onto real ones! Please start your kids on real cigs at a young age, thank you."

Money, it's all about money. They government doesn't want you to quit and the tobacco companies don't want you to stop giving them money. This is a complete conspiracy. Fuck these assholes.

[stinkwheel]

Newsflash.

If you use an e-cig, you haven't stopped smoking. You have just found another way to take your nicotine.

Same goes for people on patches/gum/whatever.

You haven't stopped smoking until you're off nicotine altogether.

I think there is some genuine concern in that we actually have no idea about the potential health impact of e-cigs. Nobody does. I would certainly be reluctant to inhale totally unregulated, Chinese-made fruit flavourings. Knowing what the level of QC out there is, you could land up with anything. This is the country that brought you baby milk with added melamine.
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[Bofh5]

I caught some of it on the lunchtime news. It was a joke.
Its one thing for a kid to nick a couple of fags from mums bag but i think they will notice if their vape kit goes missing.

The other thing is that you can vape with no nicotine so that will stuff them right up !

Time to stock up then before it hits the fan.
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[Tungtvann]

Smoking is very intrusive, even with the current laws regarding where you are allowed to smoke, I still smell smoke on people and I still sometimes end up walking through clouds of smoke as smokers are congregated by doorways to buildings etc. E-cigs do none of that, so I'm all for it. Sure, they might not be as healthy as eating sticks of celery, but what is?

They are highly likely to be less damaging than regular cigarettes, so what's the problem? E-cig away, guys!

[Llama-Farmer]

I'd rather have someone sat on the table next to me in a restaurant smoking an e-cig than someone walking in front of me down the road smoking a real cigarette.


If they demonstrate that passive inhalation of e-cig vapours causes harm, then I would suggest they are banned in enclosed public places. (But if that was the case then I would also suggest they are regulated, so companies are forced into making them in a less harmful way)

If you make people go outside to smoke an e-cig then they're perhaps more likely to make it a real one instead.


(Pre-emptive "smoking in the street is my right" rebuttal argument. Your smoking is a nuisance to me, I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate it if I was wandering around with a ghetto blaster deafening you with an antisocial choice of music. I'm sure the police would probably categorise me as a nuisance, but how is my noise pollution and nuisance different to the localised air pollution caused by your smoking in public places)
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[Bofh5]

Since switching to e-cigs 10 weeks ago i noticed how bad smoking was for me.
I don't get out of breathe running a short way and my sense of smell and taste is so much better.

No more fag ash in the car or standing in the rain.

I have cut down my nicotine from 1.8 to 0.6 - 1.2.

If they were to ban them completely then i like others would probably end up back to smoking again.
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[doggone]

Seems like a way to avoid dealing with being addicted - and just carry on spending your money on the sh*te you don't need.
Is it supposed to be 'pleasurable'?

Must echo Stinkwheel's points, these chemicals being touted as safe because they aren't smokey are inevitably going to have consequences when used long term rather than for a short period as a tool to stop smoking.
They are chosen for their ability to cross into the bloodstream and permeate live tissue, this is not a sensible thing to be doing.