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BG5067
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 17 Apr 2014    Post subject: My friend wants a scoot Reply with quote
A good friend of mine at work is looking for a scoot, he has an artificial leg (knee down) and can't ride manuals as he can't shift gears,

He's adamant on getting a cheap scoot and wanted some advice on 2 he's narrowed down.

A 2002 Honda Silverwing with 72k costing £1250 miles on it or a 1999 Burgman 400 with 49k costing miles on the clock £1695 .

what does the BCF massive think? or any other suggestions, He has a full licence as he lost his leg after he took his test.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 17 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Id say test ride and go for whatever suits his prosthetic best comfort and safety wise.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 17 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
He lost his leg after doing a knee down? Wow, hardcore Shocked
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 17 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
GeorgeB. wrote:
He lost his leg after doing a knee down? Wow, hardcore Shocked



unfortunately no lol.



EDIT: oooo i see what you did there lol
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BG5067
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 17 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Andy_Pagin wrote:
Id say test ride and go for whatever suits his prosthetic best comfort and safety wise.


Good idea,

but the scoots in general are they ok?
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 17 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
72k is a huuuge mileage for any bike. Personally I'd not go with either as they both sound like they might be F*cked.
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 17 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
MarJay wrote:
72k is a huuuge mileage for any bike. Personally I'd not go with either as they both sound like they might be F*cked.



thats what I'm thinking but he has a low budget (£1600) and large scooters at that price are hard to come by (so he says)
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 17 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Honda NC700 or NC750 with DCT auto box
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 17 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Northern Monkey wrote:
Honda NC700 or NC750 with DCT auto box


For £1600 he wouldn't mind having a look
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 17 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
BG5067 wrote:
he has a low budget (£1600)

Has he tried extracting some disability/mobility dosh from the dhss? Or tried motability.
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 17 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Andy_Pagin wrote:
BG5067 wrote:
he has a low budget (£1600)

Has he tried extracting some disability/mobility dosh from the dhss? Or tried motability.


can he do that on bikes?
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 17 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Aprilia mana?
https://www.motorcycle.com/images/content/Review/1mana0417.jpg
Full auto (notice lack of clutch lever) but has 'proper' bike looks. Comes in a newer version (called the Mana GT) that has a bit of fairing around it.

Edit - missed the budget bit. They seem to be starting around £2.5k.
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 17 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
If I lost a leg I would do anything I could to avoid a scooter, there are some pretty decent auto and button shift bikes around now, and plenty of bikes have been converted to button shift in the past, there must be some sort of option for him other than a maxi scooter.
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 17 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
I totally get scooter's I think?

But these big 500,600cc+ Maxi scoots weighing in at 180-200kg's I just don't grasp the concept of why TBH?

I would say for a scoot, you want small, compact nimble and slim, with something lightish under 125kg, and anything up to 20bhp or so? After that they lose me I'm afraid!
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 17 Apr 2014    Post subject: Re: My friend wants a scoot Reply with quote
BG5067 wrote:
a 1999 Burgman 400 with 49k miles on the clock costing £1695

Wut? From a dealer, presumably. He'll get much newer or lower mileage for that money privately. Pre-2007 wants the short, nearly horizontal crankcase breather disconnected from the airbox or it will suck oil.

Objectively, they're fine. A decent commuter or even an unhurried tourer, great storage and weather protection, 65mpg+, an unstressed 70mph+, very comfy and practical.

I sold mine mainly because it was dull, and partly because it wasn't easy to work on - changing the rear pads means wheel off which means exhaust off which means oh-snap.

Which raises an issue. Unless he's able to do the work himself, then he'll want to find a garage willing to do it. I've heard tell that some independent garages don't want to touch older scooters because the time to do jobs tends to rack up quicker than owners want to pay for it.

Getting rinsed for lots of hours at main dealer prices on an older scooter doesn't make much sense.
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 22 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry for late reply guys, been busy.

in the end he went for a Piaggio XEvo 400. (awaits the flames lol)

reason being he's on crutches with his leg and exvo has very long boot and he can fit them in it.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 22 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
If I was disabled there would be one thing I wanted above anything - THIS (admittedly a lot more than a couple of grand.

https://www.2014reviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013-Spyder-RS-S-orange-.jpg

I'm presuming you can get some form of auto box for them.
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 22 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polarbear wrote:
If I was disabled there would be one thing I wanted above anything - THIS (admittedly a lot more than a couple of grand.


I'm presuming you can get some form of auto box for them.


True,

but he'll lose the benefit of parking in motorcycles bays and congestion charges (i think)

plus he likes the Piaggio as his crutches fit nicely in it
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 22 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
BG5067 wrote:
in the end he went for a Piaggio XEvo 400. (awaits the flames lol)

Why? It's a perfectly reasonable solution, and he's still on 2 wheels.

Mind, I might have been tempted by something like an MP3.

Congestion charge exempt even if it's the "cat B" version, and pragmatically I can't see any real issues with sticking it in a solo motorcycle bay.

https://www.thebikergene.com/gallery/zen/i.php?a=PiaggioMP3&i=-8.jpg&w=450&h=
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 22 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
My bad then lol.

Mp3 was way out his price range. The Piaggio was I guess the next best thing
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 23 Apr 2014    Post subject: Scoot Reply with quote
Rode a Piaggio X9 for a while a very capable bike easy to live with, yes you do have to adapt your riding style especially in the wet comfortable for doing big trips. Should be some good 500 around for his budget.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 23 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
My brother in law has a false leg from the Knee down and he's got a Gsx 750 Inazuma and he just had 1 of those pneumatic gear changer sets ups put on his bike...I think he got it for free as he joined a disabled riders group if I remember rightly.
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