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The VFR is completely different bike with top tech parts on it. GSX is like 20 years old. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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It's something I've pondered myself. My theory is that it's too cheap.
Bear with me.
It doesn't have a prestige badge, nor does it have an 'R' in its name. You could hoon or commute on it, but that's not what it's for: it's a tourer.
And the kind of person with the money and time to go touring is a mature empty-nester with plenty of money and a willingness to display it.
Ask BMW, they've got that market locked down.
If the GSX1250FA came with a swastika quartered-circle or perhaps a Guzzi eagle on it, and cost about £3K more, I imagine it would sell like gangbusters. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Rogerborg wrote: | It's something I've pondered myself. My theory is that it's too cheap.
Bear with me.
It doesn't have a prestige badge, nor does it have an 'R' in its name. You could hoon or commute on it, but that's not what it's for: it's a tourer.
And the kind of person with the money and time to go touring is a mature empty-nester with plenty of money and a willingness to display it.
Ask BMW, they've got that market locked down.
If the GSX1250FA came with a swastika quartered-circle or perhaps a Guzzi eagle on it, and cost about £3K more, I imagine it would sell like gangbusters. |
Don't be daft, nobody actually buys Moto Guzzis.
Suzukis are much more budget than beemers whatever anyone says. Cheapest suspension, cheapest brakes, cheapest frames, cheapest fixings etc. The *not bandit* 1250 is the very definition of a budget UJM. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
Remember kids, bikes aren't like lego. You can't easily take a part from one bike and then fit it to another. |
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MarJay wrote: | Don't be daft, nobody actually buys Moto Guzzis. |
Ewan McObiwan does. He probably buys half of the ones sold in the UK.
OK, bad example, my point is that a budget marque is wrong for that market, not that it's necessarily a bad bike considering its price.
I'm aware that my noob is showing, as I've not had the pleasure of running a proper Suzuki yet.
I would like to know why there aren't more of them on the road. I can only recall seeing one, at a big bike meet, surrounded by bikes that on the face of it offer less for more money. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Too much water in the engine for a Bandit... ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good |
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My dad had one of these and loved it! The only problem was the seat I think but everything else was spot on plus the torque was immense.
I think it gets slagged off because its basicly a bandit with a better fairing and luggage. ____________________ Bye bye Z hello Versys |
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I like this bike. It has torqy motor and 6th gear for cruising, decent fairing, and upright position with bar handle. Usually Big naked over 1000cc has small half faired model only like CB1300 / ZRX1200.
VFR1200 has more forward-leaning position.
I'm not experienced enough to go for over 1000cc yet though. ____________________ 2020 Touring Serow 250
,past 2012 YB125SP, 2008 TDM900 2005 W650, [url=d], 2002 LS125R, 2002 CB400SF, NS50F, C50 / Trip to UK(2009), Hokkaido touring(2013) |
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Went for a test ride today and it seems to be what I hoped/suspected. It’s big, but not cumbersome. Its fast, but not insane. It’s comfortable and practical – I took the wife along for the test to see how she found it as a pillion and was surprised quite how flickable it was even with her on board and she found it comfortable and quite liked it (Although her comparison point is being on the back of my zx6r, so it may be relative ).
End of the day, and to answer my own question, there’s nothing wrong with it that I can see. It may not have the bells and whistles that the VFR has, but there is a much bigger difference in price than there is difference in toys and quality, at least to my mind. ____________________ Jonathan A wrote: tart. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 139 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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