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[byke95]

I watched newsnight last night, with the BNP guy who has many issues with Islam. He's obviously a very intelligent guy, not a 'thug' which is what the presenter was determined to label him as!

It raises the question of where is the fine line between homogeny and cultural diversity, can they all co-exist without hating each other?

I'd love to see a world where we all get along (big hugs and all that) but what I know of Psychology and human nature I know it will never happen, too many small minded people on both sides.

I had reservations about posting this thread - I don't want to give another platform to some of the racists we have on this forum (they are never about on a daily basis but seem to appear whenever they can slag off another race with no evidence to back it up!) So please, feel free to voice your opinions (we are free to have those at least) but do reel off random and unfounded comments.

My personal opinion is that, although I respect all religions, I also feel that they can be one of the most destructive forces in our 'modern' world. Potentially more so that those 'weapons of mass destruction'

[Visitor Q]

I fucking hate religious people.

They use religion as an excuse for their own idiocy/sins.

Frankly everyone should just be agnostic, such as i am, if they believe in something. And just try and be nice.
Logically religion is laughable, absolutely laughable.

Does anyone remember that girl who got all stroppy cos she couldnt wear some ludicrous outfit in school. Damn straight she couldnt, its a school uniformed school. That wasnt uniform. End of. I believe in fair ness and equality, but it goes both ways. Things should be treated the same.

Such as if a black dude calls a black dude a nigga its fine, if a white dude says it jokingly he can be arrested.
Pretty much anything could be substantiated into a racist comment. Its basically becoming a situation where you jut dont to people who are black etc, in case they take offence to something you say. If you called a black dude a top banana, he could substantiate that into a racist comment. And you could lose your job.

Its retarded.
Fucking hate england atm.
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O no doubt about it Religion creates many many wars. It's dangerous.

But thats how its been, and is up to this day... I dont like religion becasue it seems to me to impose too many restictive rules on people. These rules are more likely to cause racial tension rather than the colour of somones skin. Plus its a load of balls as well .

I can't see any problem with multicultural integration...

BNP party gets a big from me.

I like all other nationalities, some people who are not white i could dislike, aswell, i could dislike many white people. It not being racist, its being fair. If people are dicks i dont like them, irrelevant of race, creed or colour. Thats my outlook.

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[bennyb24]

aah, you have to love the religious threads....

2 pennies from me, everybody finds it funny/ridiculous how ancient tribes would worship volcanoes as angered gods etc. this has since been disproven by science.... we all know about techtonic (sp)plates etc.

The sooner Big bang theory is unquestionably proved to be the source of the universe and life the better (in my mind it already has) But I suspect that will only lead to other forms of violence * err sorry religion .

[tgabber]

One of the worst examples of racism I've ever personally encountered didn't involve any obviously racist comments.

I was working in an office with a (black) african girl and a (white) South African man. Both of whom I considered perfectly nice people and had no problem getting along with either of them.

Then one day when the girl was out of the room the bloke simply said to me in a manner I will never forget "have you noticed how she smells?"

His tone and sneer made it clear he wasn't referring to B.O.

I had no reply, I just remember feeling sickened.
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[byke95]

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It's true diffent people from parts of the world, have different natural odors. Something no-one can do anything about. To white people, white people smell neutral, but black people for example smell different. Its no problem, and that guy sounds like a dick to me.

[Visitor Q]

[Phil.]

I watched that last night too. It was shocking, I think BNP will lose alot of votes, and rightly so.

The things they supposidly represent seem resonable, Tougher immigration laws, crack down on illigal immigrents etc. It's just down right predjudice towards anything different from themselves.

The one guy that got beat up by a group of asian and so decided to join the BNP to channel his anger. What a load of non sense.

I would call myself an agnostic bordering on an athiest. I don't like the idea of religion what so ever.

The idea of
Going to wash in a dirty river for your religion
Listening to a fella telling you stories from the bible and then handing over your mortgage
blowing yourself up to gain entry to the gates of 'heaven'
Spending your sundays doing this...
Instead of doing this
Leaves me abit confused.. I mean ok, the teachings of most religions (aside from the ones that encourage suicide) are a good thing, do on to others etc. But is it really necessary?

If i had a bacon butty and had a glass of milk i would be dammed for eternity?

If i had a kebab in ramadam i would be insulting god?

If i didn't pray for good in the world to my god bad things are to happen?

Hmmm well i don't think this world is a very nice place to be in right now, I suppose it would be alot worse without religion....

[Fallen Angel]

I would not class myself as being a racist, however, I don't understand why so many different religions feel like they have the right to brake the rules, i.e. Asian religions that worship on a certain day, why do these people insist that they cannot work on that day!!!!! And why the hell do they get away with it? That does my t*ts in!!

I'd like to see every British person who was religious trying to say that they couldn't work on a Sunday!!!! Aye right - there's no chance they'd get away with it.

All I can say now on the subject is DO IN ROME AS THE ROMAN'S DO!!

Can you imagine us going to some of these countries and dictating our own law to them - aye right!

But as I'd say, I would not call myself racist, I just hate the double-standards and it's the government that's to blame for that!
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[JonB]

Well I am an atheist and believe Relgion serves no purpose in life. If people have to jump on the bandwagon to believe in a superior being then they obviously couldn't survive on their own and could never lead a fulfilled life.

I don't like the BNP, but they do air good points, asylum being one. We are *WAY* too easy on them letting any old Tom, Dick and Harry in.
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lol @ yams

I will learn to proof read my posts one day..

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[tgabber]

The most innocent words can be made to sound racist and the most seemingly obnoxious words can be said with affection.

It's the thought behind it that counts.

As for religion, I'm happy for anyone to believe what they like as long as they are happy for me to believe what I like.

May your god bless all you motherf*ckers!
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IMO religion is not solely blame-able for conflict. It is more the cultural aspect. Admitedly religion can often be at the center of culture but people groups tend to fight becuase it's unfortinatly in our nature to associate ourselves within certain groups and be against others. No where in any religion does it say that they should create wars with those of other religions. The same thing happens outside of religion just as much as within these days. Probably because less people are religious (which suports my point).

You can't say that religion serves no purpose even if you disagree with the center of it. It contributes most charities to the world (it is certainly true in south africa). It gives people purpose in life which is important to them. Some people find purpose in hobbies such as bikes and others look to religion.

IMO it would take more than just proving the theory of big bang to disprove religion (if it is true). Besides the theory of big bang is just as unbelievable as religion when it comes down to it. It explains how the uiniverse has formed but not how it was created. If the universe started out as energy then it existed as energy before the big bang. Where did the energy come from?

Religion is not just about explaining where the universe came from. It is also there to make sense of it.


...maybe i'll add to this later, i've gotta be off to a lecturer.

It just bugs me when people can be so anti-religious when they can't even prove themselves that religion is false.

[Fallen Angel]

[andrew]

[byke95]

[andrew]

Religion is a complete pile of fuc**** shi**.

Yeah some bloke who sits in this funky place called heaven spent a week creating Earth and all its creatures. On the seventh day he decided to chill.

LOL Pigs fly as well, do you know that?

[Fallen Angel]

You've got me interested now!!!

Other than Budhism, name a religion that does not incite hatred or furnish it's followers with lies and crap and general scare-mongering!!!!!
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