someone tell me he's bullshitting..

[mikesaa309]

So had a bit of an issue with my insurance company about no claims bonus blah blah blah, anyway they said if I don't pay the extra deposit needed the policy will be cancelled.

So I rang up my CBF insurance company to ask if I can swap the bikes but I can't do that because the policy only allows my to ride up to a 125 regardless of what licence I hold but said I can start a new policy. Only problem is they want proof of restriction And my bandit is restricted

I asked them what they class as "proof" and they said a signed letter from a garage to say it running at that bhp by doing a dyno test. So I bit the bullet and went down to the nearest garage that has a dyno tester and asked the price and shit. I told him I brought the bike restricted from the previous owner and apparently you can't do that as it needs to be a FI international restrictor kit and needs to be fitted by someone qualified and recognised by FI. Also the owner is registered to the restrictor kit.

So apparently buying and fitting a non FI international restrictor kit is illegal to do according to this "mechanic". Only thing is these kits cost around 400 quid plus 20 - 50 quid to get them fitted plus 40 quid to get it dyno tested. It's a fucking joke!

I hope this guy was just bullshitting so I paid him to fit a restrictor kit or something or purely doesn't know shit about the restriction laws. As far as I'm aware according to gov.uk the motorcycle has to be restricted to 46 bhp. No where does it say who has to restrict it and how it's restricted. I was thinking of creating some shitty throttle stop that doesn't allow it to rev more than 8k or something then get it dyno tested. Turns out (according to this guy) that you can't do that and has to be FI international restrictors.

Does anyone here know the actual law on restricting motorcycles? Cause everywhere online isn't clear at all. One site says it's fine to do this then another says actually you have to do this, then someone says no it doesn't really matter if you do that or not, and I'm just confused about the whole shit thing that just seems like some government shit or is it under the EU? either way it's some wankers idea of making money and probably a load of motorcycle haters trying to stop people from getting a bike. Yet you get some 17 year old lad with rich parents and he can go by a fucking porsche.

[arry]

Are you kidding me? Both Roger and I have explained 'the law' to you on a number of occasions - go read!

[smegballs]

FI International is a racket.

Just get the thing dynoed, if it comes back as less that 46bhp you are good to go.

In the real world, the only thing that legally proves the bike is less than 46bhp is when the police/vosa/whoever dyno it on their calibrated machine and it says less than 46bhp. There should be plenty of dyno places about willing to take your 30 quid or so...

[P.]

Go fuck a cars hot exhaust pipe.

Seriously, its plastered on here, the "document" has no legal bearing at all.

Just paint pic, send on, inform them of the fact it is not required by law, stand your corner.

[EazyDuz]

Change to a less cuntish insurer. Never been asked for proof of restriction
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[Dave500]

Don't know if this helps but when I had my bike restricted to 33bhp about 4-5 years ago the insurance company didn't ask if it had been done but I think that the restrictor was about £300 and I think that there was a restrictor in the engine somewhere and one in the throttle grip wouldn't turn all the way back.
Hope it helps Dave
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[dydey90]

I'm not sure which Blandit you have, but it certainly seems as though he made up those prices off the top of his head:

https://www.fiinternational.com/ShowDetails.asp?name=GSF600+Bandit&type=Suzuki
https://www.fiinternational.com/ShowDetails.asp?name=GSF650+Bandit&type=Suzuki

Also, FI only want 'official' people fitting their shit:

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[mikesaa309]

So which insurance companies aren't the cuntish ones? That's two insurance companies I've looked at both wanting proof of restriction.

[stinkwheel]

The law says it has to produce no more than 46bhp. That's all it says.

FI international are an independant company who make restrictor kits.

Your insurance company says they want a dyno printout before they'll enter into a contract with you.

SO.

If it's 46bhp, you are fine as far as the law is concerned. If you are over 46bhp, you are not fine. Posessing a piece of paper makes no difference either way, it either is or isn't.

FI international make their money selling restrictor kits and would dearly love their certification to be a legal requirement. It is not. It's a relatively meaningless piece of paper. Mrs stinkwheels insurance company accepted my letter detailing when, where and how I had restricted her CB500 using homemade washers. My piece of paper is every bit as valid as an FI certificate.

It still boils down to the fact that if your bike was tested by the police at over the required bhp, having a certificate would make you no less guilty of an offence.

If you want to insure your bike with that particular insurance company, from what you've posted here, you need to send them a dyno printout showing it makes no more than 46bhp. That is a stipulation of their contract, if you want to do business with them, that's what you need to do.

So. pay for dyno run. Peak bhp <46bhp = WIN, send it off. Peak bhp >46bhp = FAIL and you're riding outwith the terms of your licence. Take it back with half a sack of potatoes in the airbox and try again.
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[Wonko The Sane]

Every other line in your first post is bullshit
Avoid FI

If fuel injection on your bike then you may need a plug in electronic box from the bike manufacturer, if carbs check kickstart engineering on eBay

My insurer got their fanny in a twist at me self fitting, got a garage to stamp and sign that he'd seen the kit in place.

My next insurer never asked for the certificate.

The certificate has no legal standing and there is no set document, you could piss in the snow to write one.

My certificate has my name on purely so it ties up with policy docs and V5 I presume.

FI generally make up shit to get people to give them money in a similar but better spelt version of a Nigerian email scam
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[Chalky.]

Someone on here needed proof that his bike had an alarm system a couple of years back, I drafted a letter through one of my companies and sent it to them - worked fine as far as I'm aware.

[mikesaa309]

FFS, so I ring them back up querying what they want as proof of restriction, spoke to some stupid cow who sounded like she cba with life.

Anyway she brings up the system notes or some shit from the guy I spoke to earlier on and apparently all he meant was proof that I have an A2 restricted licence. I asked "so do I not need to prove the bike is restricted?" she replies "Do you have any documents proving it?" I said "No, I was wondering if I need to get it dyno tested or not?" she goes "No, just need to provide proof of the restricted license."

I'm pretty sure that twat on the phone this morning said I needed a dyno test.

[smegballs]

[EazyDuz]

[EazyDuz]

Oh and the insurers I used were Wicked Quotes which were the cheapest and actually had good customer service
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[Rogerborg]

Stop. Just stop. Stop talking to them on the phone, stop with the "blah blah blah" waffling.

Deal only with what you have in writing. If they can't be bothered putting it in writing, it's not important enough to bother with.

You're flapping and fussing at about a 7 or 8. Dial it down to 3 or 4.
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