Mod 1 Failed Again :( Update - Fail Again :( ..UPDATE!

[MissBex]

Heya all, So I had my 2nd try at Mod 1 today, but unfortunately failed it again *Sigh*

The first time round I pushed too hard on the back brake and the rear wheel locked. Bummer. Speed was good and no other minors.

Today, everything was going well again, then I did the estop, keep saying to myself not to stamp on the back brake, stopped...

It didn't feel like a really good attempt as I had been doing when training, but I hadn't locked the rear wheel. Waited for the examiner to come over and he told me that it was a fail... I Hadn't stopped quick enough. I was a bit too far from the cones behind me and he said that the speed I was going (Slightly under @ 49kph) I should have stopped sooner.

Damn!!

No minors again.

Round 3 booked for 2 weeks time.
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Direct Access Passed - 30/05/14
00' Honda Hornet 600

[kerr]

Next time rest for foot on the rear brake, make it look like your using it
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aprilia 125 Af1 Futura >> Suzuki gsxr 600 srad >> J1 zx6r >> cbr 600rr >> Speed Triple

[Rogerborg]

Less QQ, more

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[Mumrah]

Sorry to hear that, rp88. You'll nail it next time

[MC]

Too hard, too soft, next time you'll do it just right If its dry their isn't any reason why you can't use a lot of front brake, just don't go grabbing at it. I'm surprised to hear you failed for not stopping quickly enough, I didn't think they were set distances, and tbh I'd want to know what they're if I failed on that.
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Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
Honda XR-125L '04

[MissBex]

[passifid]

[G30]

Step 1: Speed 31mph
Step 2: Roll off throttle as soon as you go past the camera
Step 3: Wait for signal from examiner to do the ES
Step 4: As soon as you see the signal, pull in the front brake gradually but quite firmly - don't just yank it in straight away. At the same time push down on the back brake as if you were 'feathering' it like when doing slow maneuvers (just keep your foot on the brake instead of on and off like you may when doing slow maneuvers) - the comparison was just for the amount of brake needed.
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[MissBex]

Thanks for your advice peeps. Thing is all the time when practicing the stop I'm fine, it's just when its on the test it all goes out the window. I tried so hard to make sure I didn't lock that back wheel this time I think I just was overcautious and that's why I I rolled to far. Bit more pressure next time.
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Direct Access Passed - 30/05/14
00' Honda Hornet 600

[Tamsin]

Bit different, but when I did my CBT I was grabbing great handfuls of brake lever - bit too much

what my instructor suggested was that I pull index finger in hard, then middle, then ring, then pinky in a rolling motion and that worked amazingly well for me

[ScaredyCat]

[andy_uk]

[MissBex]

Ok guys well heres the update. I failed again for the 3rd time.

However

It wasn't on the Estop lol
I was more nervous than ever this time round. First 2 times I wasn't really that nervous but this time I was sitting waiting in the room. I was trying the positive thinking approach through the day, telling myself I am going to do it this time.

We sat whilst a girl from another school did hers but she put her foot down on the slalom but didn't continue anyways and finished it there.

The lad I was with did his test and passed (Just) Almost failed for taking too long to stop on Estop but as he was going 60km he was let off for the longer distance.

Then it was my turn. The instructor from the other school told me that if it goes wrong, don't just quit like his girl did, carry on anyways.

So went in, did the bay bit, went through slalom and fig 8, but was abit wobblier than usual and revved the bike a lot on the fig 8 at one point but still managed it. I think the examiner (same 1 I've had every time but doesn't ever remember me lol) only made me do the fig 8 1 time around. So that was good. He signalled me over and I as I started riding towards him he was waving his hands to come around one of the blue cones in a curve so at the last second swerved around the right side of it. Must have just missed it by a cm lol!

Then slow ride - I took a breathe... just started to move... and stalled it. Turned bike back on straight away and just froze thinking.. "omg, is that a fail?"

He came up to me and said, don;t worry, that's not a fail. I took a huge sigh of relief and carried on, remembering to redo my obs.

Now U-turn. By this point I was pretty shaken up. I said to him after he told me about the Uturn that I just need a minute as I'm really nervous and he said no rush take my time. I sat for a while and took some deep breathes. Then went for it.

Started turning. Too slow, not enough revs, foot down! Damn it!

He came over and said, now that is a fail.

Asked me if I wanted to continue and I said yes.

Did the rest of the test with no faults! Speed 52 on Estop and swerve and did Estop perfectly as well.

Attempt 4 booked in 2 weeks.

It feels like the more attempts I have the more nervous I feel about failng them Sorry to waffle on. I KNOW I can do it. I'm not one to give up and what I've said to people is, as long as I can afford to keep trying, I'll keep trying. (£125.50 each time is a lot for me)

Fingers Crossed
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Direct Access Passed - 30/05/14
00' Honda Hornet 600

[Tamsin]

Sorry to hear the bad news....

There is some good news though, you've proved you can do everything required of the test - you just need to put it all into one test

Glad to hear you got the estop nailed though

[MissBex]

[Rogerborg]

See if this cheers you up. This Thursday, I set off for work on Ze Beemer, got 200 yards from my house and remembered that I'd left my lunch in the fridge.

It was a nice Chinese curry, so I decided to do a U-turn and get it. But then again, it was veggie and I was running a bit late, so I decided not to. Get it. Nah. Get it. Nah.

Next thing I knew, I was "stepping off" the bike and "laying it down".

U-turns are easy to do, but also easy to mess up if you're not committed, or are distracted by being observed. It's better to put a foot down than the bike down, right?

So try not to sweat it, stuff happens, it'll all be ancient history soon.

On the cost issue, do you have a 125 of your own? If so, why not book an A1 mod 1 for £15.50, rock up on your own bike and just have a go? Once you've shown that you can do it, it's just a case of doing it on a bigger, more stable bike.
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[MC]

Unlucky Mod 1's utterly stupid, if you fail on the estop or swerve test then you shouldn't have to do the other stuff again IMO.

Actually thought I failed my mod 1 doing something similar during the slow ride, I moved a cm or so forward, put my foot down then carried on. Dunno if the examiner was being lenient or not.

Also might encourage you/make you feel better, did my tests with a pal who had been riding for years, even big bikes on the sly. Even he struggled with u-turn's (he'd mess up 1 in 4 or something, I'd mess up 3 in 4 ), despite having no issues with anything else.
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Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
Honda XR-125L '04

[Llama-Farmer]

[MC]

Because you can fail on something you don't have an issue with, like the original person, failing twice on estop then this time putting a foot down on the uturn (which amazingly doesn't result in automatic death in the real world).

It would be completely unworkable (a partial retest), but IMO the slow speed & high speed maneuvers are very different. None of the slow speed stuff you actually do in the real world, only the uturn, but as above puting a foot down's not an issue.

The high speed stuff might one day save your life, although if you've been riding round on L's, you've already performed an emergency stop and had to swerve for stuff if your still alive.

The independent ride's a load of b******s as well, but I at least understand the idea behind it. If you don't have the mental capacity to read road signs, work out where you going, your going to be a danger on the road. As you can actually go the wrong way it doesn't make much of a difference anyway.
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Honda XR-125L '04

[MissBex]

Hi all, thanks for all the support and extra info

Rogerborg, hopefully it was a pretty quiet area without a load of people watching you. I've done it also on a lesson, bloody footpeg snapped as well. Did the curry make up for it? hehe

As far as a 125 goes, I don't have one. I've been driving a car for 6 years and I've gone straight for my DAS as I'm 25. CBT & Theory no probs. I did the absolute beginner course which involved CBT, 3x 4hour training sessions on the XJ6 then the Mod1 & 2 with a few hours beforehand of practice.

After failing the first Mod1, I decided I wanted another extra 4 hour day as I had to wait 3 weeks for the retest and didn't want to get to rusty and the extra training would be good. That day of the extra lesson I rode better than I ever had, I was so relaxed, practically no mistakes which was a nice confidence builder. I had already been on the test centre course on a lesson before my first Mod 1, but I asked if we could go there again and practiced for an hour there again. Went on to fail Mod 1 a second time, rebooked, failed third time. Rebooked for 4th now in a week and a half.

I'm not too worried about Mod 2, at least not yet anyways. I don't see any major issues with my road riding apart from as I'm only 5ft 2 sometimes I don't pull off the best stops in the world if the road is dodgy lol. (I try to not put my feet down at all if I can help it!)
I'm doing my tests in Peterborough, I don't know the area really but I've been taken around the roads quite a few times now on my lessons so I've got a little clue. I truly am rubbish with directions though haha, but as long as I do it safely even if I go the wrong way I shouldn't have to worry too much hopefully.
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Direct Access Passed - 30/05/14
00' Honda Hornet 600

[Tamsin]

I've been to Peterborough twice, I hated the place

[DottyDuck]

arhh bad times but the thing to remember is you are capable of doing it and that is the main thing Smile nerves are a right ballache but just try and enjoy it. Remember not to put that pressure on yourself, if you fail all it means is you have to try again. (Which is hardly the end of the world!)

Good luck for round 3

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Old Bike: Zontes Panther 125cc - wrote off Current Bike: Kawasaki ZR7

[maxray]

When I did my mod1 the instructor didnt look up and signal for me to perform my emergency stop! Had to have a second go with him actually paying attention and woukd have been gutted had I cocked it up the second time. Luckily it all went well.

[SnowTigeress]

[MCW]

Nerves are the devil. I really feel for you. It has taken me a really long time to overcome them. I don't know what the answer is except to keep going. You know you can do it, you just have to prove it in a particularly artificial setting.

On the day I took my mod 1, I woke up to find the bloody cat had vomited on my textiles and only had time to sponge them down before having to leave. Got to the training school, hadn't even got out of the car-park before I dropped the bike, really bashing my leg in the process. Already shaking I rode to the test centre.

The examiner was a nice bloke, but from the minute I rode into the compound I started shaking and sweating. Sweating so much that my glasses and helmet steamed up, my clothes were soaked and I was aware of a strong smell of cat vomit rising up from my trousers. At this point I gave up. I was convinced I couldn't possibly pass in that state and just thought I'd go through the motions and get it right next time.

I think it was that frame of mind that let me pass. When it was over I parked up and took my helmet off. My glasses flew off too and landed in the road, just as a car went by and ran them over. Miraculously the lenses weren't damaged and by dint of a very botched job I managed to gaffa tape them to my helmet to let me ride home.

tl:dr keep going, if I can do this, you definitely can...