Not sorry mate cos I did see you but pulled out anyway

[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

Had a couple of these recently, where you can actually see in their eyes "fuck it, it's only a bike, might as well go."

Dunno about you, but with me the sheer brazenness of this shit almost knocks the wind out of you, incapacitating you slightly, delaying your reaction time and causing your piss to evaporate in a cloud of superheated steam.

No so much a SMIDSY as a FYIDSY (Fuck you, I did see you).
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[janner_10]

I don't think they actually do see you. They see through you, looking for the more familiar sight of another car.

A la SMIDSY weave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqQBubilSXU
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[Charlie]

Yep had this, if the road/conditions allow I'll overtake and give them some abuse. I've seen others overtake and fold the mirror in. Normally shits the driver right up!
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[FriendlyEllis]

Defensive every time.

They've NEVER seen you.
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[Moo.]

I think as above its one of those situations where they're looking but not seeing.. Which happens scarily often.

Pretty sure its something to do with not looking around enough so the eye doesn't pick up movement.

There was a spiel of here somewhere about how car drivers need to look around like a fighter pilot and observe better..

Motion Induced Blindness

https://blog.jafrum.com/2013/04/03/one-of-the-many-possible-reasons-car-drivers-do-not-see-motorcycles/?utm_source=ExactTarget&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Apr+11+2013+Closeouts&utm_content=http%3a%2f%2fblog.jafrum.com%2f2013%2f04%2f03%2fone-of-the-many-possible-reasons-car-drivers-do-not-see-motorcycles%2f
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[DSK]

That smidsy. Weave video is interesting.
However what's meant by 'is the background moving behind the car' thing that the chap says.
Watched it twicce and don't fully understand his meaning.
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[rhys1005]

Happened to be yesterday but the car actually hit me as I didn't try too hard to avoid it as it was in a very busy town and if I hurt someone or hit another car, it'd be my fault.

Didn't bother going through insurance and I told the guy this after I called him a stupid cunt as it was a works scooter and I wasn't in the mood for my headache. Smug cocky fucker wouldn't admitt fault or say sorry even though I said I wasn't going to claim/ no was was listening in.

Guy tried moaning at me for scratching his car when he hit me! As he got in his car he muttered 'wanker' under his breath.. Got me very mad and told him if he has a problem then come to the store i work. If I wasn't in a heavy populated/ camera'd area I don't think I'd of let him off so lightly.

One of the biggest problems with having a motorcycle is all cunts from cunt village know any veichle on four wheels would destroy a motorcycle leaving the driver unscathed. I'm sure if I was driving a battered 4x4 he wouldn't of pulle out without indicating even though he saw me, expecting me to swerve. He admitted he saw me and said he thought I was be able to slow down in time.. This was in pouring rain and about 4 metres between us.

[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

No way soz guys but I've been there with the "got eye contact, still pulled out" situations. This is different. Why? Because in both cases they are looking right at me and start to smile when they see me swerve slightly, or try to slow. I've seen the weave ploy advocated many times on here and elsewhere and trust me, it don't mean shit here. I'm talking about proper cunts, not glazed eyed fucktards.
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[J.M.]

Had one guy recently fly straight out of a junction, without even taking enough time to look for hazards/traffic. Then sat straddling the white line of the 2 lane (in each direction) road.

Thankfully I anticipated it and slowed down, but it annoys me
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[hachi8]

From my experience they DO actually see you, but they think "oh he will slow down/stop/swerve as hes on a bike and he know he will come off worse"....that's the impression i get when I see the face of someone whos pulled out on you.
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[MC]

Most SMIDSY's are Sorry Mate I Didn't look, or Not Sorry Mate I Saw You But Don't Give a f**k. Gotta say its a lot more common when cycling, as your seen as a lesser road user, normally drivers know they risk a crash with a motorcyclist & an insurance claim.

Most of the times I've nearly SMIDSY'd someone have involved low sun, had a weird one turning right once, heading into the low sun saw the shadow of a bike but somehow didn't register which direction it was coming from. After I had turned into the road saw the bike flash past (so it was coming towards me)
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[stinkwheel]

I agree with trevor. There are definately situations where people DO see you and pull out anyway, looking at you the whole time to see what you're going to do.

Usually in a larger German or other "prestige" car like a Lexus or a Jag.. Or one of the big, luxury 4x4s

I put it down to the same reason they don't indicate before changing lanes, won't use the left hand lane on a motorway, won't pull across to let following traffic pass and deliberately take up two bays in a car park. ie. They feel having spent double a working mans annual salary on a car that they are somehow better than other road users.

Only poor people ride motorcycles/drive slow cars in the left hand lane and nobody has the right to drive faster than them because poor people have a slower car. My car cost twice as much so I'll take up two parking spaces so a poor person doesn't hit my car with their door.

It's nothing to do with road presence because they do exactly the same with my van. White van = worker = poor = give way to my BMW X5 even if that means standing on the brakes.

I have thus far resisted the temptation to just hit them when they do it to the van. A nice frontal van/right side impact car would keep the apportioning of liability nice and simple. I usually just make myself feel better by tailgating them really badly. They of course speed up (because poor people drive vans, poor people drive slowly, I am rich, have a fast car and therefore drive faster than you) and I match them. A Vito has a not inconsiderable top speed and a pretty fancy traction control system so it corners like a car. What it lacks in acceleration is made up for by the huge hole in the air a BMW X5 makes. I keep at it until they either start to lose-it or decide they were turning off here anyway.

On the bike, I have been known to ride alongside them staring in through the drivers window to see how long they can pretend not to look for.
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[CaNsA]

I have noticed that people are less likely to pull out on me when i have my dark visor on.

[Rogerborg]

I know we're social monkeys that communicate with our faces, but it's not them that's going to hit you, it's their vehicle.

Easier said than done, but I'm fairly consistently not looking at drivers any more, unless we're at a stop and need to negotiate. On the move, I look at the front wheels and make my decisions on that basis, rather than on whatever fantasy I've concocted about what the driver is thinking (or not thinking).

It removes some of the "WTF?" disbelief that eats into reaction time, and as a bonus, when they do something nob-handed, it feel less personal.
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[Pol Anorl]

I get this a lot, even done it myself once or twice, just dont see them untill you start moving then its too late.

Simple solution anticipate it, my horn fingers always ready and i cover my brakes
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