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PostPosted: 23:29 - 14 May 2014    Post subject: Buying Bikes & Accessories? Reply with quote

Hey;

I made a post and have received feed back, but I thought I would make a new thread as it's I guess a different question. I've skimmed the forums and haven't found much more information on it, so I'll ask directly. Smile

(Original thread about being a New Rider etc: https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=289764)


- Basically I've been looking at bikes for a while now and have come across some really nice ones, and ones which I would buy if after some time I cannot find a special one I would like, It will be my first bike which I will have for some time to come. I am wondering if anyone else has any information or links to where you can buy motorbikes, preferably used ones as I have been searching for some time but obviously I'd love to see what you guys/girls do when it comes to searching for a new bike.

I have spoken to "wr6133" and "he/she" did inform me about the usual Gumtree and eBay, and I have Google'd used bikes and read up on a lot of websites and checked over a lot of bikes.

- Are there any bike accessories that are a must have generally? I was told prior that a bag/backpack is a must have, though I did find that pretty much common sense as, well... you don't have much room for storage on a bike obviously haha Razz .

Thanks in advance Smile
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 14 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Buying Bikes & Accessories? Reply with quote

Manchop wrote:

- I am wondering if anyone else has any information or links to where you can buy motorbikes, preferably used ones as I have been searching for some time but obviously I'd love to see what you guys/girls do when it comes to searching for a new bike.


Recent thread covering this question, click here.

Manchop wrote:

- Are there any bike accessories that are a must have generally? I was told prior that a bag/backpack is a must have, though I did find that pretty much common sense as, well... you don't have much room for storage on a bike obviously haha Razz


Unfortunately that's one of the downsides of bikes, they don't come with much storage as standard and panniers and/or top boxes ruin the look of a bike in my opinion but they are practical.

There is no must have accessories/mod's really but, i'd recommend crash bars/bungs as there's a high chance you'll drop your first bike.
If you're commuting through the winter months muffs + heated grips will keep your hands warm (lots of threads covering ways of keeping your hands warm in winter).
Everything else is down to personal preference really, it's how ever you want to modify your bike and how you want it to look.


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There's obviously security as well, unsure if you'd call it a bike accessory but it's a must have when buying a bike.
Decent chain and padlock (Almax if within budget and they're supplied with good padlocks, IIRC I think they're called Squire padlocks) accompanied by a ground anchor for home.
Disc lock, as it makes the bike more difficult to wheel away + cheap alarm as a basic deterrent for when you're out and about.


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PostPosted: 23:58 - 14 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Buying Bikes & Accessories? Reply with quote

Az wrote:
Manchop wrote:

- I am wondering if anyone else has any information or links to where you can buy motorbikes, preferably used ones as I have been searching for some time but obviously I'd love to see what you guys/girls do when it comes to searching for a new bike.


Recent thread covering this question, click here.

Manchop wrote:

- Are there any bike accessories that are a must have generally? I was told prior that a bag/backpack is a must have, though I did find that pretty much common sense as, well... you don't have much room for storage on a bike obviously haha Razz


Unfortunately that's one of the downsides of bikes, they don't come with much storage as standard and panniers and/or top boxes ruin the look of a bike in my opinion but they are practical.

There is no must have accessories/mod's really but, i'd recommend crash bars/bungs as there's a high chance you'll drop your first bike.

If you're commuting through the winter months muffs + heated grips will keep your hands warm (lots of threads covering ways of keeping your hands warm in winter).

Everything else is down to personal preference really, it's how ever you want to modify your bike and how you want it to look.

Edit: There's obviously security as well, unsure if you'd call it a bike accessory but it's a must have when buying a bike.

Decent chain and padlock (Almax if within budget and they're supplied with good padlocks, IIRC I think they're called Squire padlocks) accompanied by a ground anchor for home.
Disc lock, as it makes the bike more difficult to wheel away + cheap alarm as a basic deterrent for when you're out and about.


Great advice, and how the hell I managed to miss that thread I am unsure, feeling a bit embarrassed now haha. Yeah I have to buy some chains and some locks for the bike, I haven't really checked any of those yet, though it was on my mind. We used to have a squires lock factory near me, unsure if it's the same thing or what not but perhaps. :p

Thanks for the advice, going to go have a look through that thread now. Smile other replies welcome!
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PostPosted: 08:22 - 15 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Buying Bikes & Accessories? Reply with quote

Manchop wrote:
Are there any bike accessories that are a must have generally? I was told prior that a bag/backpack is a must have

I tend to add luggage in more or less this order:

Top box.
Tail pack (on the pillion seat).
Tank bag.
Panniers.

I wouldn't wear a backpack on a bike by preference.

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PostPosted: 09:05 - 15 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

For storage, panniers. If your looking at cruisers most come with them, hard are best as they are lockable which provides at least some illusion of security. If you plan long trips away then a magnetic tank bag. Stuff can be bungeed to the pillion seat too and the sissy bar. I'm with roger on not wearing a backpack if it can be avoided it bloody hurts if you land on one with lumpy stuff in it.

Security. Big chain. Ground anchor at home if you can install one. Alarms can be handy they don't stop theft but if you are nearby you hear it so can attend the scene with your choice of blunt or pokey instrument.

and the obvious jacket, trousers, boots, gloves and lid. If the lid is open face don't forget sunglasses/goggles and a bandana or the like to cover face.... 60 MPH fly to bare skin is annoying, 10 of them in a few minutes is infuriating.

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PostPosted: 09:14 - 15 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anodise anything you can. People round these here parts go mad for it. Thumbs Up Wink
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 15 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Manchop wrote:
Are there any bike accessories that are a must have generally? I was told prior that a bag/backpack is a must have

I tend to add luggage in more or less this order:

Top box.
Tail pack (on the pillion seat).
Tank bag.
Panniers.

I wouldn't wear a backpack on a bike by preference.

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wr6133 wrote:
For storage, panniers. If your looking at cruisers most come with them, hard are best as they are lockable which provides at least some illusion of security. If you plan long trips away then a magnetic tank bag. Stuff can be bungeed to the pillion seat too and the sissy bar. I'm with roger on not wearing a backpack if it can be avoided it bloody hurts if you land on one with lumpy stuff in it.

Security. Big chain. Ground anchor at home if you can install one. Alarms can be handy they don't stop theft but if you are nearby you hear it so can attend the scene with your choice of blunt or pokey instrument.

and the obvious jacket, trousers, boots, gloves and lid. If the lid is open face don't forget sunglasses/goggles and a bandana or the like to cover face.... 60 MPH fly to bare skin is annoying, 10 of them in a few minutes is infuriating.

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- Haha, I'm straying away from the Idea of a backpack now looking at all the other storage options. I do have my leathers, and I could imagine flies hitting me in the face, I've seen it a few times lmao.

~ I'm guessing I'm kind of good to go, once I finally have a bike, haha.


Minty wrote:
Anodise anything you can. People round these here parts go mad for it. Thumbs Up Wink


Quickly looked this up, this means to strengthen or coat/layer mental to make it more durable if I'm not mistaken, and I presume resistant to weather and rust to some degree?

I'll have to look into that a bit further, thanks for that. Smile


~ Thanks guys Smile
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 15 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manchop wrote:
Minty wrote:
Anodise anything you can. People round these here parts go mad for it. Thumbs Up Wink


Quickly looked this up, this means to strengthen or coat/layer mental to make it more durable if I'm not mistaken, and I presume resistant to weather and rust to some degree?

I'll have to look into that a bit further, thanks for that. Smile


Laughing I'm pretty sure Minty was referring to cheap, colourful & metallic replacement parts. Such as bar ends, bolts, tax disc holders and so on.
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 15 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manchop. Thinking Did it hurt?
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 15 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Laughing I'm pretty sure Minty was referring to cheap, colourful & metallic replacement parts. Such as bar ends, bolts, tax disc holders and so on.


I'm either gullible or inexperienced, lmao Smile Thanks :p


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Manchop. Thinking Did it hurt?


I'd like to think so, ...then again.. Shocked Surprised hehe
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 16 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whether you need a brand new bike or even an accessory of a motorcycle. you can get it from J&S Accessories store that offers everything to bikers under one roof.
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 16 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

randymartin wrote:
Whether you need a brand new bike or even an accessory of a motorcycle. you can get it from J&S Accessories store that offers everything to bikers under one roof.

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PostPosted: 22:27 - 16 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Join some forums or owners clubs specific to the bikes you like & hit up their for sale threads. You will usually find what you want at a reasonable price from people who are enthusiasts. The same goes for parts, servicing, clothing, tools - anything. Sure beats the 'blind date' buying experience of eBay, impersonal dealers & rip-off private sales. Here's a list of top items that have kept me warm, dry, saved me shit loads of cash &/or my neck.
Loobman chain oiler, £20 - Your chain & sprox will thank you & they will last a lot longer. https://www.loobman.co.uk/
Crafty Plugger (tubeless tyre repair), £20 - Plug it, pump it up, carry on. Not supposed to be permanent. https://www.craftyplugger.com/
Military waterproof DPM, £20 ish - Don't buy expensive waterproofs. Get govt surplus DPM. Its ten times cheaper, does the same job. Any army surplus stores, eBay, online.
Hi-Viz jacket/trousers, £20 each - Warm & waterproof. Bright yellow for those dark raining winter nights.
Welding boots, £20 - Lace up leather steel cap boots with thick soles & a flap which seals the laces. Had mine for a year & despite having no waterproof membrane (Goretex), I still can't get them to leak. Beats the shit out of any motorcycling boots for wear, feel, protection, price & comfort. Welding suppliers, eBay.
Thermals, £20 - Uniqlo Heat Tech. Absolutely essential stylish Japanese textile technology. Marks & Spencer's version are also excellent.
Part worn tyres, £20 (set) - I get Michelin Pilot Sportys from a guy in Gloucs. Find your personal fave tyres & your personal fave tyre guru.
Handlebar muffs. Dunno how much 'cos I make my own out of despatch bags & cable ties. Allows you to wear thin gloves in winter & stops frostbite.
A hundred & fifty quid well spent! All that for the price of one budget mock waterproof motorcycling jacket that'll last three months if you're lucky & not a courier.

There's loads of other stuff out there. See what the motorcycle version retails at & cross ref that with similar items from other outdoor pursuits such as fishing, hiking, camping etc. You'll be amazed & you won't be skint. Sure there'll be boys on here that will laugh at this - they're the guys with one piece Dainese leathers & ultra light Prexport GP boots who ride to work & back & to a couple of meets in the summer on a ten grand bike. If you've got it, flaunt it. I ain't, so I don't...
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PostPosted: 07:55 - 17 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bunny Lingus wrote:

Handlebar muffs. Dunno how much 'cos I make my own out of despatch bags & cable ties.


Despatch bags.......where from ?

Any chance of pics? maybe a 'how to', ta.
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PostPosted: 08:37 - 17 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bunny Lingus wrote:

Military waterproof DPM, £20 ish - Don't buy expensive waterproofs. Get govt surplus DPM. Its ten times cheaper, does the same job. Any army surplus stores, eBay, online.
Hi-Viz jacket/trousers, £20 each - Warm & waterproof. Bright yellow for those dark raining winter nights.


Military surplus can be very good stuff, though not optimised for riding positions (make sure sleeves are long enough when sitting with your arms out in front of you, for example). Also bear in mind that wearing camo isn't ideal for avoiding SMIDSYs so it's one of times I would consider hi viz to be useful.

For sunglasses for open face helmets/riding visor up at slow speed, look at safety glasses. They are fraction of the cost of normal sunglasses plus they have impact rated lenses and a closer fit than fashion glasses to keep wind and muck out of your eyes. You can get decent design ones that look "normal" and are OK to wear off the bike - e.g. Bolle Contour plastic or metal
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 17 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

bamt wrote:

For sunglasses for open face helmets/riding visor up at slow speed, look at safety glasses. They are fraction of the cost of normal sunglasses plus they have impact rated lenses and a closer fit than fashion glasses to keep wind and muck out of your eyes. You can get decent design ones that look "normal" and are OK to wear off the bike - e.g. Bolle Contour plastic or metal


I'd wear them, and cheap too.
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PostPosted: 09:54 - 17 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

randymartin wrote:
Whether you need a brand new bike or even an accessory of a motorcycle. you can get it from J&S Accessories store that offers everything to bikers under one roof.


The last J&S I went into didn't stock motorbikes. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 17 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
randymartin wrote:
Whether you need a brand new bike or even an accessory of a motorcycle. you can get it from J&S Accessories store that offers everything to bikers under one roof.

The last J&S I went into didn't stock motorbikes. Laughing

The local one did used to have some bikes for sale.

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Crafty Plugger (tubeless tyre repair), £20 - Plug it, pump it up, carry on. Not supposed to be permanent. https://www.craftyplugger.com/

eBay, "tyre plug kit", you'll get a better one than that (with a rasp and glue) for £2.76 delivered from China, or about £5 in the UK.

If you're going into the £20+ range then I'd recommend a Stop & Go mushroom plug kit (as always, see if you can find it a few £££ cheaper).
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 17 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^Agree with the stop n go kit but would recommend some extra CO2 cannisters.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 17 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

bamt wrote:


For sunglasses for open face helmets/riding visor up at slow speed, look at safety glasses. They are fraction of the cost of normal sunglasses plus they have impact rated lenses and a closer fit than fashion glasses to keep wind and muck out of your eyes. You can get decent design ones that look "normal" and are OK to wear off the bike - e.g. Bolle Contour plastic or metal


Personally I prefer to have the cushioning/padding with proper bike glasses like these https://www.getgeared.co.uk/HELD_9704_Silver_Framed_Mirrored_Sunglasses?sc=22&category=180

I find without padding you have to push the glasses tight against your face and then they steam up easily. The padding seems to largely counter this.
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