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I like the idea of a bike so simple and basic that you barely think about it and just enjoy the journey.
It is a little pricey so probably won't sell large numbers, I think Yamaha were probably hoping for a small cult following then to top the sales table with it.
Hopefully the finish is as good as Japanese bikes were 15 or 20 years ago. The recent stuff that's made in China/SE Asia is shit.
Still wouldn't mind one of the SR400's as a second bike when they're about 3k 
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I wonder why they didn't use the twinport motor they fitted to the SRX400?
Perfomance about 50% higher, looks practically identical (the motor, not the bike).
Or is 23bhp some sort of new benchmark in terms of the recently changed licencing? The SRX was making 33bhp bang on the nose and 3.4kg/m of torque as opposed to 2.8kg/m.
Obviously things have moved on since 1988?
EDIT: Of course, it's been made to appeal to the hipster/bratchopper crowd. They are running out of late 80's aircooled singles to totally fuck-up. I wonder why they don't save some effort and just supply them with no rear subframe or mudguards?
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I expect a fair number of them will be ridden to the local bike cafe or clubhouse to be admired, and to get their dealer stamp once a year.
Actually, kick start only? Might be a case of making an annual call to the AA... 
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While yes; the hipster thing... this sort of bike can never be intended to be aimed at 'performance'. The performance market is off buying a used GSXR1000 for half the price and massively more 'performance'.
What a low starting figure does offer however, is the opportunity for expensive 'tuning' features  . |
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Already knew about the price and it being kick start only, however I've got to say it looks a damn sight better than most of the current bikes on the market/bikes coming to the market.
Most are extremely disgusting in looks, but that's been happening to bikes for quite a while. If you are after a decent bikes with old school looks then that is really the only bike on the market other than the triumphs.
Looking at bikes coming to the market most have messed up looking exhausts/lights. Even most of the sport bikes have gone really ugly.
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Remove the silly light on the seat and put it on a sidemount, wrap the pipes and remove the indicators - sorted
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I quite like that 
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Why can you not do those mods and use it as a daily ride? I'm assuming from the comments in this thread nobody does custom retro chopping and mods etc? |
1) It has no front mudguard. Have you ever ridden a motorcycle on a wet road with no mudguard?
2) It has no rear mudguard. Given most hipsters also remove the airbox and fit either a bellmouth or pod filter, this means it gets loads of shit, water and dust thrown directly up into the engine off the back wheel.
3) Clip-on/Ace bars on a road bike without rearsets imparts a "shitting frog" riding position. Both uncomfortable and stupid-looking.
4) It is not a chop. A chop has had the frame chopped and rewelded, not a load of off the shelf Japanese import brat-chopper bullshit bolted to it.
5) Nor is it a bobber. A bobber has a lightly chopped frame and usually a hardtail. That's why they are called a bobber because they bob up and down as you ride them.
6) It is not retro. It's very contemporary. Nobody rode bikes looking like that until about 5 years ago, around the time The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo came out.
7) It shows a total lack of imagination. As such, I think it hardly counts as "custom". Customising a bike to me means a lot more than removing parts and bolting on off the shelf componants.
HOWTO build a "Custom retro chopper/bobber".
1) Remove the mudguards, airbox, battery tray and clocks
2) Cut off the subframe.
3) Chop down the saddle or buy a single seat unit.
4) Realise you did need that subframe after all, weld some of it back on or just leave the seat flapping in the wind.
5) Turn the headlamp brackets upside down to lower the light.
6) Realise you have nowhere to keep the electrics and battery. Bodge them on somewhere.
7) Fit oversize, knobbly tyres.
8) Fit ace bars or clipons.
9) Paint the tank matt black.
10) Cut off the exhaust at a 45 degree angle just behind the footpegs.
11) Decide you want the tail light off to one side, decide you could probably put the battery in a box below it and bolt the numberplate onto it. Realise you already cut off the subframe so there's nothing to attach it to.
12) Ride it to your local bike meet. Realise it is uncomfortable, impractical and doesn't run right because of the airbox mod. Put it away in the garage.
13) Pull it out next year. Fail MOT on multiple points because you've fucked up a perfectly good motorcycle. Put it on Ebay for double what you paid.
It is the modern equivalent of bolting coloured anodised parts and dominator lights to your bandit. People will look back askance at it.
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The Kawasaki W800 seems like a similar sort of niche bike.
https://www.kawasaki.co.uk/W800
£6899 new.
Any reviews I've read of these mentions the top quality finish.
I've a notion that the previous W650 holds it's value pretty well. Maybe these sell ok as it's been in the Kwack range for a good few years now?
Punters maybe go for the primo quality and will pay top whack?
I really like the SR400 and hope that enough get sold to give me a 2nd hand shout down the line.
I think though that the reality is that Yamaha UK will drop it like a hot potato due to poor sales. I can't see this doing better than e.g. the WR250R that they dusted off a few years back. Another quality but pricey bike.
Anyway, looking forward to getting a butchers at it in the dealers. |
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| stinkwheel wrote: | | beardface wrote: |
Why can you not do those mods and use it as a daily ride? I'm assuming from the comments in this thread nobody does custom retro chopping and mods etc? |
1) It has no front mudguard. Have you ever ridden a motorcycle on a wet road with no mudguard? Yes I have, it was a fucking nightmare, we tend to make our own or re-shape existing ones
2) It has no rear mudguard. Given most hipsters also remove the airbox and fit either a bellmouth or pod filter, this means it gets loads of shit, water and dust thrown directly up into the engine off the back wheel. All our conversions have had the part of the mudguard left in to protect the filters and electrics, waterproof filters are king. Would of thought that bit was common sense though
3) Clip-on/Ace bars on a road bike without rearsets imparts a "shitting frog" riding position. Both uncomfortable and stupid-looking.  The right bars/adjusted properly are the key to avoiding that stance or just fit rearsets.
4) It is not a chop. A chop has had the frame chopped and rewelded, not a load of off the shelf Japanese import brat-chopper bullshit bolted to it. Never said it was a chop?!?!?!
5) Nor is it a bobber. A bobber has a lightly chopped frame and usually a hardtail. That's why they are called a bobber because they bob up and down as you ride them. Never said it was a bobber?!??!
6) It is not retro. It's very contemporary. Nobody rode bikes looking like that until about 5 years ago, around the time The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo came out. It is retro styled on a bike that first came out 35 years ago. Never even heard of The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo??
7) It shows a total lack of imagination. As such, I think it hardly counts as "custom". Customising a bike to me means a lot more than removing parts and bolting on off the shelf componants. Customising can just be 'changing the can/bars/chopping tabs off etc/paint/handmade parts and brackets and bits off other bike to reach desired effect'. Customising means changing something from original to your preferred taste, it can be quick or it can be loooong. What does customising mean to you?
HOWTO build a "Custom retro chopper/bobber". (according to stinkwheel from his personal experience of trying to build one????)
1) Remove the mudguards, airbox, battery tray and clocks
2) Cut off the subframe.
3) Chop down the saddle or buy a single seat unit.
4) Realise you did need that subframe after all, weld some of it back on or just leave the seat flapping in the wind.
5) Turn the headlamp brackets upside down to lower the light.
6) Realise you have nowhere to keep the electrics and battery. Bodge them on somewhere.
7) Fit oversize, knobbly tyres.
8) Fit ace bars or clipons.
9) Paint the tank matt black.
10) Cut off the exhaust at a 45 degree angle just behind the footpegs.
11) Decide you want the tail light off to one side, decide you could probably put the battery in a box below it and bolt the numberplate onto it. Realise you already cut off the subframe so there's nothing to attach it to.
12) Ride it to your local bike meet. Realise it is uncomfortable, impractical and doesn't run right because of the airbox mod. Put it away in the garage.
13) Pull it out next year. Fail MOT on multiple points because you've fucked up a perfectly good motorcycle. Put it on Ebay for double what you paid.
lol, to you maybe! Wouldn't build anything that didn't ride perfect or was uncomfortable, never had any of the problems listed above but have seem some massive fails on ebay
It is the modern equivalent of bolting coloured anodised parts and dominator lights to your bandit. People will look back askance at it.What you listed above sounds bit more involved than putting anodised bolts and domis on a modern bike like the bandit. |
Must of took you a while to type so tried to reply
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| andymach23 wrote: | The Kawasaki W800 seems like a similar sort of niche bike.
https://www.kawasaki.co.uk/W800
£6899 new.
Any reviews I've read of these mentions the top quality finish.
I've a notion that the previous W650 holds it's value pretty well. Maybe these sell ok as it's been in the Kwack range for a good few years now?
Punters maybe go for the primo quality and will pay top whack?
I really like the SR400 and hope that enough get sold to give me a 2nd hand shout down the line.
I think though that the reality is that Yamaha UK will drop it like a hot potato due to poor sales. I can't see this doing better than e.g. the WR250R that they dusted off a few years back. Another quality but pricey bike.
Anyway, looking forward to getting a butchers at it in the dealers. |
Loving the w800, nice retro styled bike. I know somebody who owns one and loves it. I like how companies are bringing out oldskoolish alternatives to modern looking bikes.
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